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    Miguel Olivo

    Today's Enquirer mentioned him as a possible option at catcher if the Reds are unable to work things out with Ramon Hernandez. I was wondering what you thought of this guy as the Reds catcher?

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    He has good power but terrible on-base skills. He's 30 years old and is, at best, a guy you give a minor league contract with an invite to spring training to.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster View Post
    He has good power but terrible on-base skills. He's 30 years old and is, at best, a guy you give a minor league contract with an invite to spring training to.
    as opposed to Hernandez who has no power or on on-base skills.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    as opposed to Hernandez who has no power or on on-base skills.
    Hernandez has decent on base skills for a catcher (career .327 OBP compared to Olivo's .278). His power seems to have left him in recent years, though.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster View Post
    Hernandez has decent on base skills for a catcher (career .327 OBP compared to Olivo's .278). His power seems to have left him in recent years, though.
    his skills are gone ... and 327 still stinks. I don't care if my 7th or 8th place hitter gets on base much but I sure like them to have some pop.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Code:
    Miguel Olivo	 OBP 
    2006 Fla 	.287 
    2007 Fla 	.262 
    2008 KC 	.278 
    2009 KC 	.292
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    Is he a very good defensive catcher?

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    In a time share with Hannigan I think Olivio would be OK, but I am pretty sure his hacktastic approach at the plate would have folks ready to strangle him about a month in. After all he has more career HR's than walks. He has a really good arm but doesn't do a good job of blocking the plate allowing lots of balls to get by him. My biggest thing with a catcher is how is he going to handle the young guys we have pitching.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Olivo's probably a better bet offensively than Corky, but not much else.

    If I had to rank them, the possibilities would be:
    1. John Buck
    2. Ramon Hernandez
    3. Miguel Olivo
    4. Corky Miller
    5. Craig Tatum

    Not exactly a murderer's row here. I'd love to see Cincinnati find someone who can actually hit and play D behind the plate.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I'd love to see Cincinnati find someone who can actually hit and play D behind the plate.
    Yes, that and or find three of them in the outfield that can hit and play D, some that could perform well against right handed pitching would be pleasing.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    I think the OF has a pretty good chance to be anywhere from just above league average to well above league average across the board.

    But this offense can't afford two black holes, one each at C and SS. Perhaps one, definately not two.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I think the OF has a pretty good chance to be anywhere from just above league average to well above league average across the board.
    But this offense can't afford two black holes, one each at C and SS. Perhaps one, definately not two.
    If the outfield is as you have otmistically put it, then the SS and C positions as far as offense should not be as critical as it has been.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    If the outfield is as you have otmistically put it, then the SS and C positions as far as offense should not be as critical as it has been.
    Both SS and C have a chance (a good chance) to be as bad as... well, CF and SS were last season. No offense can have three (including the P spot) black holes and expect to win.

    And an OF that includes Bruce, Stubbs/ Dickerson, and Gomes should be around or better than league average overall for each spot, IMO.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Both SS and C have a chance (a good chance) to be as bad as... well, CF and SS were last season. No offense can have three (including the P spot) black holes and expect to win.

    And an OF that includes Bruce, Stubbs/ Dickerson, and Gomes should be around or better than league average overall for each spot, IMO.
    It is the first 5-6 batters I am conerned with, the lower portion if good is a bonus.

    I like that above and can find myself looking excitedly forward to those four in the OF. It is the rest of the fodder that takes up AB/PA that wearies me, along with batters who are poor against right handed pitching, and that turns me into Mr. apathy. Of course better would be better.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Josh Bard is the guy I'd like to see brought in to push Hanigan.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    .781 OPS in 09. The team could do worse.
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