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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    as opposed to Hernandez who has no power or on on-base skills.
    Hernandez has decent on base skills for a catcher (career .327 OBP compared to Olivo's .278). His power seems to have left him in recent years, though.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster View Post
    Hernandez has decent on base skills for a catcher (career .327 OBP compared to Olivo's .278). His power seems to have left him in recent years, though.
    his skills are gone ... and 327 still stinks. I don't care if my 7th or 8th place hitter gets on base much but I sure like them to have some pop.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    The one thing I like about Hernandez is that he can play some first base in a pinch. I would like to keep him around but I doubt he will go low enough to justify his part time player status.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Olivo > Hernandez
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Olivo whiffs a ton. A whiff every 3 AB's.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Market is pretty forgiving right now -- Olivo, Torrealba, Ramon plus others. Would be nice to see the team sew somebody up and then move on to more complicated maneuvers.
    "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Sigh. Nothing like a team too behind the times to even join last decade, let alone this one.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by LINEDRIVER View Post
    Olivo whiffs a ton. A whiff every 3 AB's.
    Yes. I think whoever they get will have some serious flaws. I'd love to see a deal with Min for Morales or better yet Ramos. I also think Navarro at TB is good buy low candidate. Kelly Shoppach from Cleveland, Taylor Teagarden from Texas and the previously mentioned John Buck are guys that would be interesting and may be odd men out where they currently are. He may not be ready yet, but I like Jonathon Lucroy from Milwaukee as another guy who could help and may be expendable (MIL has Salome as well).

    The thing for me is, I'd like to see a younger player. Everyone seems to think the Reds need a vet to pair with 2nd year guy Hanigan, but Hanigan will be 30 in August. He's the vet as far as I'm concerned. If the team needs more "wisdom" I'd keep Corky Miller around as a coach or organizational guru. Lets get some upside for the roster itself though.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Sigh. Nothing like a team too behind the times to even join last decade, let alone this one.
    there waiting for it to come back in fashion
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    The biggest problem with signing Olivo is that he would then be on your roster.

    This team is OBP challanged enough.
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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Both SS and C have a chance (a good chance) to be as bad as... well, CF and SS were last season. No offense can have three (including the P spot) black holes and expect to win.

    And an OF that includes Bruce, Stubbs/ Dickerson, and Gomes should be around or better than league average overall for each spot, IMO.
    It is the first 5-6 batters I am conerned with, the lower portion if good is a bonus.

    I like that above and can find myself looking excitedly forward to those four in the OF. It is the rest of the fodder that takes up AB/PA that wearies me, along with batters who are poor against right handed pitching, and that turns me into Mr. apathy. Of course better would be better.

    You're opinion is as good or better than mine, I am fine with it.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by LINEDRIVER View Post
    Olivo whiffs a ton. A whiff every 3 AB's.
    Yes. I did not see many walks or OBP, I did some HR that so many are in love with.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Olivo > Hernandez
    I agree. I like Ramon but at this point I'd rather have Olivo. At least he has some power.

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    is pudge still out there?
    there's nothing like bowling a 300 game! 13 now and retired.


    Ricky henderson has a higher OBP than C. patterson and he's retired. C. Trent 6-14-2008

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    Re: Miguel Olivo

    If these are the choices, we are doomed.

    If you people weren't so terrific, there would be no point.

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