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Thread: Should the Reds sign Votto long term?

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    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
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    Re: Should the Reds sign Votto long term?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I'd rather keep the productive players as long as we possibly can.
    Every productive player on the roster is one less hole to fill.
    That's why I liked the Rolen trade. Yes, it added payroll, but some of that was offset by Toronto and dumping Weathers/Harriston/etc

    I agree. I'm all for keeping and paying good players what they are worth. I don't have any problems keeping Arroyo and Cordero and Phillips since they are earning their paychecks.
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    Re: Should the Reds sign Votto long term?

    If they sign Votto long term, will they have enough to pay the electric bill for the stadium?

    Looks like they're going to have to switch from 2 ply to single ply for the bathrooms next year.
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    Re: Should the Reds sign Votto long term?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Due to the fact that the Reds have Alonso in the pipeline, I do not sign Votto longterm. He's a great player, but he's a 1b.

    With the declining salaries, it just doesn't make sense to hand out a 5 year contract now, just to maybe save a couple of million.

    Signing Votto to a longterm contract makes it potentially impossible to trade him.

    Look at Lyle Overbay. I think Votto is better than him, but Overbay really been up and down. Toronto gave him a long contract and he's immovable now.
    I disagree with this. I think the closer Votto gets to arbitration/free agency, the less the Reds could get for him. Nearly major league-ready prospects are the most valuable commodity in baseball. This is where the value really is. So Alonso will conceivably be worth more than Votto, maybe as early as mid-2010.

    In my opinion, the Reds should sign Votto to a back-loaded deal with some team options as soon as he is willing to sign a deal they think they can afford. Longoria's deal is a good place to start. Although it may be a little high for Votto, the idea is good. Small market teams have to identify some players they don't mind paying if they are going to be contenders.

    The longer they wait, the less risk they are removing from Votto's shoulders, so the price will go up. If they want to wait until mid-season this year to feel better about the mental aspect, that is fine.
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    Re: Should the Reds sign Votto long term?

    The Longoria deal is pretty extreme, nobody who's had 2 years of success already would sign that, I don't think. You might want to look at Pedroia's deal, probably a more realistic starting point, 6 years, $40.5M, team option for a 7th at $11M with a $500K buyout. First year after signing at $1.5m, last year before the option at $10M.
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