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    Instant Replay

    I am sick of watching the integrity of the sport of college sports being thrown away by instant replay. I have seen absolutely horrible calls go to high ranked teams, and am sick of it. It is happening in all conferences. Having conference officials in the booth making million dollar decisions cripples the integrity of the process. What can be done to straighten this out?

    1. Replay Officials must not have conference affiliation.
    2. Reemphasize the definition of irrefutable evidence.

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    Re: Instant Replay

    I see it each week in the NFL as well. It's mind-boggling sometimes.

    As much as I wanted UC to win last night, that fumble reversal was a terrible call. There wasn't one ounce of evidence that should've reversed that call.
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    Re: Instant Replay

    the ball only has to break the plane of the white line and it certainly did that

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    the ball only has to break the plane of the white line and it certainly did that
    Did he?? if the replay is so undisputable, then why are we discussing this right now. The ball may have crossed the line, but did he have a control? I'm not sure. There wasn't enough evidence to overturn that play, IMHO.
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    Re: Instant Replay

    It doesnt matter if he loses control at any point after the tip of the ball touches that white line. Looks like it did to me

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    Re: Instant Replay

    I must be in the minoroty in all of this but I thought the ball did touch the goalline and if the replay showed that then the call should be reversed. Simple as that. If the tip of the ball touches the plane of the goalline, it's a TD. Unlike the announcers on TV, after seeing the replay I thought to myself "they just might overturn this."

    I think the college system works better than the NFL replay system. I haven't seen many issues and I have seen a few bad calls get corrected

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    Re: Instant Replay

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    the ball only has to break the plane of the white line and it certainly did that
    Without a shadow of a doubt? Hardly.

    However, the play was called on the field, it should have stood because there was not enough evidence either way to reverse it.

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    I don't know that it was indisputable, but if you look at the position of the ball in relationship to the WVU player reaching for it, it is definately beyond the goal line IMO. It apears to me that he loses control after the nose of the ball crosses the goal line and might even get it back before he pulls it back, but again that just how I saw it. Was it enough to overturn the call? Probably not, but the person who has to be convinced according to the rule is the replay official and apparently he was. So beyond that, it doesn't matter I guess.

    FWIW, I am a UC fan and I didn't think it would be overturned. I may not agree with a lot of the calls, but I'd rather have instant replay as it is right now than not have it at all. I definately don't think there is a conspiracy going around, and I do think they get it right a majority of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeinRed View Post
    I definately don't think there is a conspiracy going around, and I do think they get it right a majority of the time.
    With instant replay, they should get it right all of the time.

    All of us here who saw the play can come up with an opinion of how we saw it, but the problem is it was not obvious and indisputable.

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    Re: Instant Replay

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Without a shadow of a doubt? Hardly.

    However, the play was called on the field, it should have stood because there was not enough evidence either way to reverse it.
    Gameday highlighted the ball and froze the frame. One third of the ball crossed the plane of the goal line - with Pead still clearly having control - and at that point the play is over and it's a touchdown.

    The officials got it correct.
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    Re: Instant Replay

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Gameday highlighted the ball and froze the frame. One third of the ball crossed the plane of the goal line - with Pead still clearly having control - and at that point the play is over and it's a touchdown.

    The officials got it correct.
    Exactly. Isn't that what replay was intended to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    With instant replay, they should get it right all of the time.

    All of us here who saw the play can come up with an opinion of how we saw it, but the problem is it was not obvious and indisputable.

    Nobody is going to get it right all of the time. Nobody. Without being in the replay officials mind, I don't know why he made that decision. Maybe it was clear and indisputable in his mind. Even saying clear and indisputable is subjective to one's view. Everything is subjective when it comes to making these types of calls. I wouldn't have overturned the call, but that doesn't mean he was 100% wrong for doing it. Its just my opinion, but his is the only one that counts.

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    Re: Instant Replay

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Gameday highlighted the ball and froze the frame. One third of the ball crossed the plane of the goal line - with Pead still clearly having control - and at that point the play is over and it's a touchdown.

    The officials got it correct.
    I didn't see it, but I wonder what camera angle they used for that freeze frame because none of the ones they were replaying the down with last night was right on the goal line. I watch a lot of horse racing and know all about "angle" when it comes to the finish line. Just being a little off is going to give you an inaccurate viewpoint. The angle they used most often last night for the replay was to the left of the goal line, which will give the illusion that the ball is farther ahead than it actually is.

    As far as I know, the replay officials use whatever cameras the broadcasting network is using so they aren't seeing anything different than we are. The replay officials jobs are not to make calls, but to overturn calls that are blatantly wrong. The play in question does not fall under that criteria, IMO. If it had been called a touchdown on the field, my argument would be the same.

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    Re: Instant Replay

    Having thought more of my horse racing analogy, I wonder if the NCAA or the NFL has ever considered utilizing a photo finish type system similar to what they use in horse racing. They are very accurate, inexpensive, and easy to use. They can set them up on the goal lines, and they will have a perfect angle and will an actual photo of when the ball crosses the plane.

    Sounds too easy.

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    Re: Instant Replay

    It isn't just about UC, we are seeing this across college football. How many times as Indiana been hosed this year? Florida and Alabama have gotten some weird calls as well. I don't agree with the call in the UC game last night, I don't call that indisputable. The freeze frame didn't show him having control of the ball, imo.

    My question is what can be done to ensure that replay is above board?
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