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    Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    That's what MLB reporter Mark Sheldon is speculating in an article on the Reds' likely free-agent moves this off-season. Read the article here:
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...tnerId=rss_cin

    Sheldon goes on to identify Craig Counsell, the 39-year-old utility infielder who played last year for the Brewers, as a more likely free-agent pickup for the Reds than Scutaro. Counsell earned $1 million last season. He's no spring chicken, but he bats left, and does boast a high OBP (.357 in 2009)

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    I wanted no part of Scutaro anyway.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    This quote caught my eye....."Jocketty said on Monday that the Reds won't set a budget until sometime in December and therefore won't know if the club will have to trim the payroll from its $73 million level this past season"

    What exactly would be the holdup here?

    Wouldn't you think they would have determined next year's budget before doing things like negotiating with Ramon Hernandez?

    Is there something I'm missing here?

    Wouldn't that be the thing you do as you start to prepare for the winter meetings?
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    This quote caught my eye....."Jocketty said on Monday that the Reds won't set a budget until sometime in December and therefore won't know if the club will have to trim the payroll from its $73 million level this past season"

    What exactly would be the holdup here?

    Wouldn't you think they would have determined next year's budget before doing things like negotiating with Ramon Hernandez?

    Is there something I'm missing here?

    Wouldn't that be the thing you do as you start to prepare for the winter meetings?
    The Major League Baseball true-ups of revenue sharing don't occur until December 1. That would have an impact on budgeting. I imagine that is what the Reds are waiting on - the official accounting to take place - to decide what they can afford to do.
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    The Major League Baseball true-ups of revenue sharing don't occur until December 1. That would have an impact on budgeting. I imagine that is what the Reds are waiting on - the official accounting to take place - to decide what they can afford to do.
    I'd guess they're also waiting to see how season ticket renewals go.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    I'd guess they're also waiting to see how season ticket renewals go.
    If Bengals ticket sales are any indication of the local ticket market, the Reds are in for a cold, dark winter.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    I really am not that jazzed about Counsel. I guess for a million or less, I'm not going to complain, but that's not exactly a move I see worth doing.

    Not really sure I wanted Scutero either.

    Have the Reds ever said "This is a strong FA class".. I just have to laugh, because I think every year they've made the comment that the FA class is not good.
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Scutero > Janish. He would be an upgrade over what they currently have. I was hoping the Reds could get him on a 1 year deal.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Anyone know anything about Nick Green?

    I read this article and wondered if the Reds should make an offer to him.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Scutero > Janish. He would be an upgrade over what they currently have. I was hoping the Reds could get him on a 1 year deal.
    I think if it comes to him having to take a 1 year deal, he'd probably accept arbitration from the Jays.
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel View Post
    Anyone know anything about Nick Green?
    He swings at everything, has a super strong arm and a bad habit of overthrowing 1st base by several miles, and he has been linked romantically to NESN reporter Heidi Watney.
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    I think if it comes to him having to take a 1 year deal, he'd probably accept arbitration from the Jays.
    Have the Jays offered him arbitration? In today's FA market a bunch of teams aren't offering players arbitration. Arbitration may be the way to get the biggest contract this off season.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Quote Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel View Post
    Anyone know anything about Nick Green?

    I read this article and wondered if the Reds should make an offer to him.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
    Reds actually had in in 2007. Came into spring training and did very well, but didn't make the team. Has a little pop, but no eye or plate discipline.

    He really is a back up. Janish is better both with the glove and the bat, if that is possible.
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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Eckstein is basically Janish without the glove/arm and with a little more contact at the plate. I'd be fine having him around on the cheap, but he's not really an upgrade. As for Scutaro, I'm pleased to hear that we won't be the ones on the hook for his career year. I could see Kansas City overpaying for him...
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Scutaro out of Reds' Price Range

    Reds actually had in in 2007. Came into spring training and did very well, but didn't make the team. Has a little pop, but no eye or plate discipline.
    That was Andy Green.
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