2010 Hall of Fame ballot released

[Bumstead]

Can someone add a poll so that we can vote?

[westofyou]

Even after all these years, when I think of Roberto Alomar, I think of him spitting in the umpire's face.

Yet he was great player, just not one that leaped out at you day after day unless you saw him often, especially since he bookended his career in the NL and became the stud he was in the AL.

BTW Babe Ruth spit in an umps face once too.

[Bumstead]

[QUOTE=BTW Babe Ruth spit in an umps face once too.[/QUOTE]

I did not know that. The bad thing is that I saw Alomar do it, I saw Romanowski do it, and I will never respect those guys again. I can't even fathom a scenario where it would come to my mind to do something like that...Alomar is still a HOF'er though...

[redsfandan]

I think so. How do you want to do it?

Well these are all of the candidates:

Andre Dawson
Bert Blyleven
Lee Smith
Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Mark McGwire
Alan Trammell
Dave Parker
Don Mattingly
Dale Murphy
Harold Baines

New Candidates
Roberto Alomar
Kevin Appier
Ellis Burks
Andres Galarraga
Pat Hentgen
Mike Jackson
Eric Karros
Ray Lankford
Barry Larkin
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff
Shane Reynolds
David Segui
Robin Ventura
Todd Zeile

I thought it might be a little crazy to make a poll with ALL of them included. Maybe reduce it to the holdovers and the new candidates most likely to at least earn enough votes to stay another year.

Andre Dawson
Bert Blyleven
Lee Smith
Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Mark McGwire
Alan Trammell
Dave Parker
Don Mattingly
Dale Murphy
Harold Baines

New Candidates
Roberto Alomar
Barry Larkin
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff

[westofyou]

I did not know that. The bad thing is that I saw Alomar do it, I saw Romanowski do it, and I will never respect those guys again. I can't even fathom a scenario where it would come to my mind to do something like that...Alomar is still a HOF'er though...

1917, Babe punched an umpire, 1922 ejected for throwing dirt on an umpire.

But umps were tough then too:

Umpire George Moriarty vs. the White Sox (May 30, 1932)

After the White Sox lost both ends of a doubleheader to the Indians in Cleveland, some of Chicago's players accused ump George Moriarty of deliberately making bad calls against them. Moriarty, who'd once played for the Sox, challenged the players to a fight, and pitcher Mike Gaston accepted. Moriarty knocked Gaston down with one punch, but broke his fist in the process. At that point, White Sox manager Lew Fonseca and catchers Charlie Berry and Frank Grube jumped the ump and thrashed him good, bloodying his mouth.

Fellow umpire Bill Dinneen did try to help Moriarty, but George still had some brawl left in him. "You stay out of this, Bill," he said. "This is my fight." Then he got up and said, "Now who else is there who thinks I'm yellow?"

[Chip R]

Well these are all of the candidates:

What are the maximum number of players you want people to vote for?

[Bumstead]

1917, Babe punched an umpire, 1922 ejected for throwing dirt on an umpire.

But umps were tough then too:

Umpire George Moriarty vs. the White Sox (May 30, 1932)

After the White Sox lost both ends of a doubleheader to the Indians in Cleveland, some of Chicago's players accused ump George Moriarty of deliberately making bad calls against them. Moriarty, who'd once played for the Sox, challenged the players to a fight, and pitcher Mike Gaston accepted. Moriarty knocked Gaston down with one punch, but broke his fist in the process. At that point, White Sox manager Lew Fonseca and catchers Charlie Berry and Frank Grube jumped the ump and thrashed him good, bloodying his mouth.

Fellow umpire Bill Dinneen did try to help Moriarty, but George still had some brawl left in him. "You stay out of this, Bill," he said. "This is my fight." Then he got up and said, "Now who else is there who thinks I'm yellow?"

Amazing! Good stuff WOY!

[redsfandan]

What are the maximum number of players you want people to vote for?

This is how it is for the official voters:

B. Electors may vote for as few as zero (0) and as many as ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.

edit: maybe make it a public poll?

[Chip R]

O.K., gang, vote your hearts out.

[redsfandan]

Thanks Chip.

[top6]

I voted for Mark McGwire, and Mark McGwire only. If I actually was a voter, and actually cared about the hall of fame, I would vote for only him until he is inducted (until Bonds and Sosa are also on the ballot, then I would vote for all 3). So that's what I did here.

[Eric_the_Red]

I voted for alomar, Blyleven, Dawson, Larkin & McGwire. None of this "not a first ballot" silliness. You are either a HOFer or you are not.

[RedsManRick]

I tend towards a "best players of their era" slant and a generally inclusive approach:

No Doubt
- Alomar
- Blyleven
- Larkin
- McGwire
- Raines
- Trammel

Yes with some reservation
- Dawson
- Martinez
- Murphy
- Smith

[NJReds]

I voted for Mark McGwire, and Mark McGwire only. If I actually was a voter, and actually cared about the hall of fame, I would vote for only him until he is inducted (until Bonds and Sosa are also on the ballot, then I would vote for all 3). So that's what I did here.

Are you an ex-BALCO employee?

[George Anderson]

Alomar
Blyleven
Dawson
Larkin
Morris
Raines
Trammell

How a writer cannot vote for a guy like Bert Blyleven is truly beyond me. Look at his stats and compare them to other pitchers of his era like Niekro, Sutton, Perry, Hunter and Bunning and it is absolutely mind boggling that he is not in.

I really think Larkin will have trouble getting in, several months back I compared the his stats to Alan Trammells and they are very comparable. Trammell's best vote total so far has been 18.2% which is a far cry from the 75% needed. I agree that Larkin was the better of the two but was he that much better than Trammell to make up the 56.8% he will need to get inducted that Trammell cannot get?