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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Because they can pay guys a salary that others can't.
    Granderson's salary doesn't really fit that description, though, it's reasonable and he's more than worth it. The D-Backs just don't make sense to me here.
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    Re: Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Will M View Post
    Church (like Nix) would be a guy to sign to a minor league deal hoping he could be a decent 5th outfielder/pinch hitter. Minimal monetary investment & easy to jettsion if/when Francisco is ready.
    I don't know that Church would come as cheap as Nix did.

    I've always liked Church and want him on the Reds, but I don't see it happening.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    At least Granderson isn't going to the Cubs.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC View Post
    I usually get excited about the winter meetings, but with the Reds stance this season, I can't get too excited.
    Same here. Status quo doesn't exactly bring the excitement.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    Who kidnapped Josh Byrnes?
    Arnold Johnson?

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Arnold Johnson?
    I'm sure that would be really funny if I got it. Who's Arnold Johnson?
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    At least Granderson isn't going to the Cubs.
    Yep. I'd hate to see Granderson in a Cubs uniform.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Arnold Johnson was the Kansas City A's owner pre-Charlie Finley. Johnson and the Yankee owners were drinking buddies, and the general perception was that Kansas City was being run as a Yankee farm team- that whenever an A's player started looking too good, he was destined for the Yankees in a lopsided trade.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by chicoruiz View Post
    Arnold Johnson was the Kansas City A's owner pre-Charlie Finley. Johnson and the Yankee owners were drinking buddies, and the general perception was that Kansas City was being run as a Yankee farm team- that whenever an A's player started looking too good, he was destined for the Yankees in a lopsided trade.
    Thank you.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by chicoruiz View Post
    Arnold Johnson was the Kansas City A's owner pre-Charlie Finley. Johnson and the Yankee owners were drinking buddies, and the general perception was that Kansas City was being run as a Yankee farm team- that whenever an A's player started looking too good, he was destined for the Yankees in a lopsided trade.
    exactly, it runs pretty deep


    Worse, Johnson's former business ties to the Yankees resulted in a series of trades with the Bronx Bombers that helped keep the New York dynasty afloat. Invariably, any good young player was traded to the Yankees for aging veterans and cash. Over the years, Johnson would trade such key players as Roger Maris, Bobby Shantz, Hector Lopez, Clete Boyer, Art Ditmar and Ralph Terry to the Yankees. In return, he did receive some talented younger players such as Norm Siebern and Jerry Lumpe, and the cash helped the team pay the bills. However, with virtually no exceptions, the trades were heavily weighted in favor of the Yankees. This made any fans, reporters and even other teams think that Johnson ran the A's as a Yankee farm team at the major league level. Ironically, Kansas City had been home to the Yankees' top farm team before the A's came to town.

    According to The Baseball Hall of Shame by Nash and Zullo, "Johnson had been wheeling and dealing with Yankee owners Del Webb and Dan Topping even before he bought the A's. Webb and Topping held a second mortgage of Johnson's totaling $2.9 million. ...and it was Webb's construction company that remodeled Kansas City's stadium to meet major league specifications." The authors commented, 'No wonder Johnson was a Yankee puppet.'



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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    "Special Relationship" I believe it was called.

    I'd love to see Bud veto this in the best interests of the game
    Go Gators!

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Geez the Yankees strike again. Now they move Melky to LF and just need to pick up Rich Harden (who they seem to want to get their hands on) and a DH to hit behind A-Rod (probably Matsui). Plus they still have that Nationals pick in the rule 5 which I can see them snagging a good BP arm to replace Coke and they are pretty much set. However unless they plan to go against their own plan of trimming some salary and since they no longer have Austin Jackson they probably aren't gonna be blocking Halladay to Boston like it seems they'd like to have done. That's assuming Boston is serious about acquiring him and I kind of doubt it. I think Doc stays put unless the NYM's sign Lackey, and again I think it could happen but probably won't.

    Trying to connect the dots to see how this deal could possibly effect the Reds. Harang is a good fit for the Mets short of Lackey going there and they don't deal for Meche. If Lackey does go there perhaps the Angels would have some interest in a Harang for Rivera and Izturis swap (I am assuming they want to deal Rivera because they seem to want to get Bay).
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    Granderson's salary doesn't really fit that description, though, it's reasonable and he's more than worth it. The D-Backs just don't make sense to me here.
    It does for Detroit who lost a ton of money the last two seasons and has to cut some payroll.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Count me underwhelmed with what Detroit got as well. In fact, I'd say the Yankees are the only ones coming out smelling like a rose in this deal. But I always prefer quality over quantity.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Count me underwhelmed with what Detroit got as well. In fact, I'd say the Yankees are the only ones coming out smelling like a rose in this deal. But I always prefer quality over quantity.
    Not a Scherzer fan?


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