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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I think the Marlins are either crazy.... or are going to spend legit money soon.

    They turned down Justin Smoak and Neftali Feliz for Josh Johnson. That would be like turning down Yonder Alonso pre injury and Homer Bailey circa 2006.
    wow. that's... um... that can't be real.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by REDblooded View Post
    wow. that's... um... that can't be real.
    Someone on twitter says it is fake.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Rangers talked to Reds about Rhodes.

    http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archiv...s_with_re.html

    Rangers discuss Rhodes with Reds
    The Rangers met with the Reds today and left-handed reliever Arthur Rhodes was a prime topic of discussion. The Rangers have some interest but didn't get very far in the discussions. They would still like to add at least one more left-handed reliever.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    What about Rivera from the Angels?

    Bay's most interested suitors appear to be the Mariners, Angels and Red Sox. Boston isn't believed willing to go all that much higher than the $60 million for four years that they originally offered. But Bay loved his time there, so perhaps he would give them a slight discount. The Angels and Mariners are battling on a number of fronts. But the Angels' interest is apparent, especially with them shopping two other outfielders (Gary Matthews Jr. and Juan Rivera).
    From here

    Plus defender for LF (15.0 UZR/150), .810 OPS, and was a 3.4 WAR player last year. If they are shopping him he would be a great 1-2 year stop gap for LF. He made 3.25 million last year, and I'm not sure of his contract status for 2010 and beyond.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by thatcoolguy_22 View Post
    What about Rivera from the Angels?



    From here

    Plus defender for LF (15.0 UZR/150), .810 OPS, and was a 3.4 WAR player last year. If they are shopping him he would be a great 1-2 year stop gap for LF. He made 3.25 million last year, and I'm not sure of his contract status for 2010 and beyond.
    Another player that some of us wanted the Reds to get last year. Why won't they listen? Anyway, here's his contract details:

    3 years/$12.75M (2009-11)
    re-signed by LA Angels as a free agent 12/19/08

    09:$3.25M,
    10:$4.25M,
    11:$5.25M

    award bonuses: $50,000 for All Star; $75,000 each for Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, LCS MVP; $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.15M for MVP ($75,000 for 2nd or 3rd in vote, $50,000 for 4th or 5th)
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Another player that some of us wanted the Reds to get last year. Why won't they listen? Anyway, here's his contract details:

    3 years/$12.75M (2009-11)
    re-signed by LA Angels as a free agent 12/19/08

    09:$3.25M,
    10:$4.25M,
    11:$5.25M

    award bonuses: $50,000 for All Star; $75,000 each for Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, LCS MVP; $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.15M for MVP ($75,000 for 2nd or 3rd in vote, $50,000 for 4th or 5th)
    Cheaper than Willy T even, considering his production.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Another player that some of us wanted the Reds to get last year. Why won't they listen? Anyway, here's his contract details:

    3 years/$12.75M (2009-11)
    re-signed by LA Angels as a free agent 12/19/08

    09:$3.25M,
    10:$4.25M,
    11:$5.25M

    award bonuses: $50,000 for All Star; $75,000 each for Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, LCS MVP; $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.15M for MVP ($75,000 for 2nd or 3rd in vote, $50,000 for 4th or 5th)
    I would have liked to see it also, but I have the feeling that Cincy would have had to eclipse that by a decent margin to get him out of LA.

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Orioles, Rangers Close To Millwood-Ray Swap
    By Tim Dierkes [December 9 at 1:20pm CST]

    The Orioles and Rangers are close to swapping pitchers Kevin Millwood and Chris Ray, reports Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun. The Rangers would of course send cash in the deal.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    that Millwood feller had a ~3.50 ERA last season, Reds otta trade for him.
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    Looks like the Brewers are about to sign Wolf. He was a guy I thought the Reds should go after but that was assuming a shorter deal (looks like the Brewcrew are offerning 3yr/$30M with a option year too).

    I wanted them to target Hardy, Wold, and Cameron.

    Hardy would've been a viable option given the final price. Wolf seems to have turned out to be a bigger risk than my calculus would accept. It remains to be seen about Cameron.

    Pretty interesting winter meetings thus far....
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Looks like the Brewers are about to sign Wolf. He was a guy I thought the Reds should go after but that was assuming a shorter deal (looks like the Brewcrew are offerning 3yr/$30M with a option year too).

    I wanted them to target Hardy, Wold, and Cameron.

    Hardy would've been a viable option given the final price. Wolf seems to have turned out to be a bigger risk than my calculus would accept. It remains to be seen about Cameron.

    Pretty interesting winter meetings thus far....
    There's Wold again!

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    There's Wold again!

    you're spreading like a virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    There's Wold again!

    If the Reds crosscheckers miss as much as my spellchecker, we're looking at the lost century....
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    The Red Sox waiver claim awarded, they have assumed total control of all Ramon Ramirezes. Good potential for confusion-related comedy relief.

    Wrong, there's a 3rd Ramon Ramirez in the D-Backs system. Well, don't I look foolish.
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    Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread

    JFay says Jocketty has been in talks with Craig Counsell.

    I'm not sure if I like the sound of that.


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