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    Royals looking for CFer

    Center Fielders On Royals' Radar
    By Tim Dierkes [January 6, 2010 at 12:46pm CST]
    ESPN's Jerry Crasnick names three free agents on the Royals' radar for center field: Rick Ankiel, Scott Podsednik, and Randy Winn. It should be noted that none of the three logged 500 innings in center in '09. Crasnick's source doesn't see the Royals spending much more than $2MM on a one-year deal, so playing time could be the biggest selling point. Coco Crisp at $5.25MM coming off two shoulder surgeries might be seen as an overpay by Oakland, if these other free agents sign for less than half that.

    My guess is that Scott Boras will end up finding a reasonable one-year deal for Ankiel, much as he did for Joe Crede last year. Beyond the Pirates, we haven't heard much from other Ankiel suitors. Podsednik could land with the Giants or Tigers, while Winn is being courted by the Padres and D'Backs.
    We have an extra CFer. Walt, here ya go, PTBNL or cash. Give 'em Willy T.
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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    We have an extra CFer. Walt, here ya go, PTBNL or cash. Give 'em Willy T.
    http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009...day/#more-2941

    Depressing Royals Story of the Day
    Posted: December 23rd, 2009 | Filed under: Baseball | 89 Comments »


    Well, the Kansas City Royals signed outfielder Brian Anderson for $700,000 plus incentives, making them the only team in baseball history so far to have BOTH Brian Andersons. So there is that.


    This Brian Anderson can be called Brian N. Anderson — the N is for “Nikola” — and he has a career 69 OPS+ in 883 plate appearances. Much of that 69, to be fair, comes from his dreadful 2004 season when he hit .225/.290/.359. Since then, his OPS+ has been a more robust 75. And while he has no power, and has been caught stealing more times than he has been successful, and has a walk-to-strikeout ratio of 65-208, he does have a reputation as a good outfielder even though those rascally defensive numbers don’t show it.

    Here’s the thing: Last year, there were seven players in baseball who qualified for the batting title with OPS+ of 80 or less. You got that number in mind? Seven.

    – Two of those players — Yuniesky Betancourt and Jason Kendall — have been locked up by the Royals.

    – Jose Guillen had an OPS+ of 80, but did not get enough at-bats to qualify for the batting title — he and his $13 million contract will be in the everyday lineup as either a DH or (gasp) a right fielder.

    – Chris Getz, who had an OPS+ of 74 in 415 plate appearances (not enough to qualify) was acquired by the Royals and figures to be in the everyday lineup at second base.

    – And now, Brian N. Anderson, with his career 69 OPS+ is the leading candidate to be the Opening Day centerfielder.

    So — there were seven every day players in all of baseball last year with OPS+ of 80 or less. The Royals project to have FIVE IN THEIR OPENING DAY LINEUP. And that is assuming that Josh Fields, with his 68 OPS+ in 268 plate appearances last year, does not win a place in the lineup. And he could. The Royals like his bat.


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    So — there were seven every day players in all of baseball last year with OPS+ of 80 or less. The Royals project to have FIVE IN THEIR OPENING DAY LINEUP.
    That is very, very sad.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Just kill me please.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    That is very, very sad.
    Ouch...that's brutal.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    If Greinke wins 10 games next year he could repeat at Cy Young with that behind him.

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    I would never wish for the death of someone, but I will so glad when David Glass is no longer the owner of the Royals. He's worse than Donald Sterling, at least Sterling spends money.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Of the Reds top 8 hitters (by number of PA's), three had sub 85 OPS+.

    I wouldn't worry about the Royals.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Poor Royals fans. That's Cincinnati Bengals futility right there. They haven't been to the playoffs since 1985. They've been averaging about 73.5 wins per season since then.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Of the Reds top 8 hitters (by number of PA's), three had sub 85 OPS+.

    I wouldn't worry about the Royals.
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    1 below 80
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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Of the Reds top 8 hitters (by number of PA's), three had sub 85 OPS+.

    I wouldn't worry about the Royals.
    That might be a little misleading imo. Hairston and Hernandez were two of those guys, and they both had an 84 OPS+. It really wouldn't have been a big deal if other players (i.e. Jay Bruce, Brandon Phillips picked up the slack) or if Willy Taveras (48 OPS+) weren't dragging the team down so much.

    Fwiw, the Rockies made it to the playoffs this year with three of their top eight hitters having a sub-85 OPS+:
    84+ Clint Barmes
    66+ Garrett Atkins
    79+ Ryan Spilborghs

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    I'd give them Dickerson if they'd take Tavares as well. There you go, Royals- both halves of a platoon for free.
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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Fwiw, the Rockies made it to the playoffs this year with three of their top eight hitters having a sub-85 OPS+:
    84+ Clint Barmes
    66+ Garrett Atkins
    79+ Ryan Spilborghs
    Atkins was a bench player the second half and Spilborghs was never an everyday guy. He was their 4th outfielder.

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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Atkins was a bench player the second half and Spilborghs was never an everyday guy. He was their 4th outfielder.
    Same could be said for Janish and Rosales for the Reds. Neither really were everyday players for the whole year. I think there are a lot of teams, especially mid market ones, that have 2-3 sub 80 OPS+ guys getting too many AB's.

    But to have 5 of your starting 8 to be projected to be that bad is almost criminal.
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    Re: Royals looking for CFer

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    That might be a little misleading imo.
    A LITTLE misleading?

    I thought it was a LOT misleading.


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