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Thread: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to six-year deal (Financials TBD)

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Why don't the Yanks/Sox throw 50 million at this guy? I just don't understand the lack of interest from the big spending clubs.

    What a great move though.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    I can't be the only one who first saw this news on another site and immediately assumed the headline writer had misspelled "Red Sox."

    Otherwise, general agreement with the chorus... I like the way the deal was structured/backloaded/deferred so that it probably won't force any other immediate moves to make room for it. Or maybe Walt was playing a little possum with the "we have no money" thing. Whichever. Don't care at the moment.
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    when is the Presser?
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Why don't the Yanks/Sox throw 50 million at this guy? I just don't understand the lack of interest from the big spending clubs.

    What a great move though.
    They still might.

    Hold the Presser already!

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    So that you guys know, the media will be panning this move now that the Reds have made it. Jerry Crasnick is already talking about how much of a big risk it is.
    Yep. If someone like the Cubs or Yankees or Red Sox had signed Chapman it would have been a great deal, but as soon as the Reds sign him it's very risky and/or dumb. I don't care what team it is or how small their payroll is, if you have a chance to sign a premium talent like Aroldis Chapman for the price they did, you do it.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    when is the Presser?
    Tomorrow, not sure what time though.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Once more Walt Jocketty has proven why he's one of the best GM's in the business.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Tomorrow, not sure what time though.
    should be around noonish i'd think.. DVR here I come
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    How to pronounce "Aroldis?"

    Try saying "ARE ALL THESE" in a Spanish accent.
    Kinda like "ARRE ALL DEES" (stress on the "ALL")... and you should have it.


    -edit: maybe even "AT ALL DEES"
    Last edited by TheBurn; 01-10-2010 at 08:37 PM.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    So who potentially gets DFA'd?

    My group: Sam LeCure, Jordan Smith, or Drew Sutton
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    Here's a little piece on Chapman from Fangraphs after he defected back in July.

    Aroldis Chapman Reportedly Defects
    by Dave Cameron - July 2, 2009 - Share this Article

    Heading up to the draft, one of the main topics of conversation was how much Stephen Strasburg was worth, and how much he’d eventually sign for. Rumors of a $50 million bonus demand were floated, while the consensus seemed to be that he’ll sign for $15 to $20 million, because he lacks the leverage to negotiate with teams besides the Washington Nationals. The big “what if” question was how much a prospect like Strasburg would get if he was a free agent.

    We might find out sooner than later, because Aroldis Chapman has reportedly defected from Cuba. R.J. wrote about his WBC start here, where Chapman showed off a legitimate power fastball from the left side. In their scouting report of the top 10 WBC prospects, Baseball America got the following quote from a scout:

    “If you are looking for more than that in a pitcher, you’ll be searching your whole life,” an AL scout said. “He was so much fun to watch. If he’s 21 like he’s listed, the sky’s the limit. You’ve got honestly just one or two tweaks that could be made but he could go straight to the top of a big league rotation.”

    Unlike with Strasburg, or even Japanese sensation Yu Darvish, Chapman has to be evaluated on his physical tools rather than his performance, but those tools are plenty exciting. It isn’t every day that a 21-year-old LHP with a mid-90s fastball becomes available for all 30 teams to bid on.

    Let’s just hope, for the good of baseball, that he doesn’t end up with the Red Sox or Yankees.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...rtedly-defects

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    The skeptic in me is tempered by the prospects of a 21-year-old kid throwing 102. . . More often than not, guys throwing 100 at age 21 end up throwing 85 by age 25. He still has the injury gauntlet to overcome too, and the total cost of his contract is ~60 percent greater than Strasburg's (a hard-thrower with considerably more polish).

    Nevertheless, I'm giddy. This is the perfect move for this club, given its lack of top-shelf talent and where it resides in the contention cycle.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $25 million cont

    BTW, Jeff Passan is one of the best in the business. He did a excellent job of nailing this story. Kudos to Jeff. I enjoy reading his material.


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