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Thread: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to six-year deal (Financials TBD)

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    I hope this question won't matter in the end, but will Chapman have the usual three option years available a la Wily Mo?
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    The MLB Network will probably broadcast the Reds press conference tomorrow afternoon. At least I hope they do. They showed the press conferences for Jason Bay, Jason Marquis, Matt Holliday, and others so they'll probably show Chapman's too.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    It certainly is. I was excited when the Reds acquired Edinson Volquez but this is bigger than that. I'd say this is easily the most excited I've been since the Griffey acquisition.
    Gotta agree. Creating excitement for this franchise is almost as needed as adding the talent itself. Walt surprised me very pleasantly with this move. Here's hoping he keeps it up.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Does this move get the first-ever RedsZone Unanimous Seal of Approval?

    Way to go, Walt.
    I think more thanks goes to Cast, who opened up the billfold big time
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Does this move get the first-ever RedsZone Unanimous Seal of Approval?

    Way to go, Walt.
    It sure seems that way, maybe the most stunning deveolpment of the day.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    I don't really see the risk here. Best case scenario, Chapman outperforms the contract in years 4-6. Worst case scenario, the Reds shift him to the closer role after Coco. At $6M, this is still a value and will be seen as such by contending clubs (if the Reds should fall out).

    I continue to be pleasantly surprised by the Reds' investments in pitching. The hiring of Price was a key move and will have real impact moving forward. This is another move in that direction. My primary frustration with the previous regimes was the inconsistencies in the 'plan(s)'. But Walt is quietly going about his business of shoring up the major league roster and putting paid to the fanbase's (deserved) opinion that the club was going through the motions.
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Does this move get the first-ever RedsZone Unanimous Seal of Approval?
    It only took ten years...
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Some nice 2007 WBC footage of Aroldis.

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    I hope this question won't matter in the end, but will Chapman have the usual three option years available a la Wily Mo?
    Some players signed to major league deals or go on the 40 man early for another reason wind up with 4 option years, but I don't know the exact rules.
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    I'm guessing that maybe the confusion over the length of the deal is because they didn't sign away their right to the usual 6 years service time control?
    I think it sounds like it may be five yrs/$25M with an optio to make it 6yrs/$30M with some of the money deferred, to be paid out over years 7-10 after the deal expires. (kinda like a mini-version of Junior's deal).

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    He's a real Cuban, right? Not a Dominican passing for a Cuban?
    I wonder how many Chapmans there are in the Havanna phonebook?
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    I would seriously make Chapman Project Numero Uno for Mario - seems like such a natural fit. I wouoldn't be shocked to find out that Mario (and support for Latino pitchers) was a "selling point" in the negitiations
    If Soto can teach him the change up and be successful throwing it, he might be better than Mario in his heyday.
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    I'm seeing a lot of posters in this thread who I haven't seen posting around here in quite a while. This signing is bringing some excitement back to Reds baseball. Good. Redszone is already an awesome place but imagine how much more fun it would if the Reds were to turn things around and start winning again?

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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Does this move get the first-ever RedsZone Unanimous Seal of Approval?

    Way to go, Walt.
    Nope.

    I saw one SunDecker who didn't approve
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    Re: Jeff Passan: Reds sign Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman to five-year, $30 million cont

    First time I've been on Redszone this much in one day in well over a year. Greatly appreciate the work OBM did all day keeping this thread updated.


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