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    Re: The Extra Point - Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by 15fan View Post
    I like the XP. Among other things, it gives the kicker on the sidelines a chance to loosen up his leg before the ensuing kickoff.

    2 rule changes I'd like to see:

    1) Instead of getting the ball at the 20 on a touchback, give the receiving team the ball at the 30 or 35. There's no disincentive for booming a KO into the endzone. Up the ante a little so that we see more returns on KOs.

    That would actually lead to more touchbacks. If a returner was ready to receive the ball at the 1, he could just let it bounce and catch it in the endzone. It would actually end up being like punts where the player figures out a yard where it doesn't make sense to catch it, and if the kickoff is going to go past that he just backs up.

    If you wanted more live returns, only give the receiving team the 10 yard line on a touchback.
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    I'd eliminate the kicker completely, make a touchdown 7 points and punt the ball from the 20 yard line then add 10 yards for the inevitable blocking in the back penalty.
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    This is truly a great thread. It's a strong discussion with opposing viewpoints, strong

    arguments on every side, and some humor. I'm thinking Archives.

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    The biggest reason that the NFL won't eliminate or even adjust the kicking game. Commercials. How could they pull their favorite routine (which makes me not want to watch the NFL): Touchdown, XP, commercial, Kickoff, commercial, three and out, punt, commercial. Money, money money. It is the only reason that sports do what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    The biggest reason that the NFL won't eliminate or even adjust the kicking game. Commercials. How could they pull their favorite routine (which makes me not want to watch the NFL): Touchdown, XP, commercial, Kickoff, commercial, three and out, punt, commercial. Money, money money. It is the only reason that sports do what they do.
    Which is why you have the choice to watch them on free TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Which is why you have the choice to watch them on free TV.
    And I typically don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    The biggest reason that the NFL won't eliminate or even adjust the kicking game. Commercials. How could they pull their favorite routine (which makes me not want to watch the NFL): Touchdown, XP, commercial, Kickoff, commercial, three and out, punt, commercial. Money, money money. It is the only reason that sports do what they do.
    Commericials would not be affected by a lack of a kicking game. You'd just get a commerical break after a change of possession or after a touchdown. Its that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    The biggest reason that the NFL won't eliminate or even adjust the kicking game. Commercials. How could they pull their favorite routine (which makes me not want to watch the NFL): Touchdown, XP, commercial, Kickoff, commercial, three and out, punt, commercial. Money, money money. It is the only reason that sports do what they do.
    Which is the reason I never watch any sporting event live. I record everything to the DVR and wait about 30 minutes (for a two-hour basketball game) to 45 minutes (for a three-hour football or baseball game) before I start watching. I usually finish up the game just about the time it's actually ending by forwarding through all the commercials, saving 30-45 minutes of my life for something more productive.

    Help stamp out, eliminate, and do away with redundancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    Which is the reason I never watch any sporting event live. I record everything to the DVR and wait about 30 minutes (for a two-hour basketball game) to 45 minutes (for a three-hour football or baseball game) before I start watching. I usually finish up the game just about the time it's actually ending by forwarding through all the commercials, saving 30-45 minutes of my life for something more productive.
    I try to do that, I record and have every intention of doing it, but it turns out I'm incapable of the waiting long enough to start watching part. The fact that I generally tend to avoid doing more productive things with most of my time might have something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Commericials would not be affected by a lack of a kicking game. You'd just get a commerical break after a change of possession or after a touchdown. Its that easy.
    Yeah, but could you do the NFL-double-commercial special? Don't think so.
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    Why the extra point?

    Because there's still people like Shayne Graham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Why the extra point?

    Because there's still people like Shayne Graham.
    ...and the end of the 2006 season wouldn't have happened like it did.
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    Re: The Extra Point - Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    Yeah, but could you do the NFL-double-commercial special? Don't think so.
    Of course they could. It's not like there's a commercial between the TD and the XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Great point. The direction I was going is that the NFL hates FGs and have been devising ways for years to discourage their use. Their most recent attempt is the idiotic rule of giving the team the ball where the ball was kicked on a miss. I don't mind it being the 20 or line of scrimmage, whichever is greater, but from where the ball is kicked is stupid. Maybe they could move the goalposts 10 more yards behind the end line to alleviate the greater distances that kickers now kick. I also thought of moving goalposts that moved back and forth as a moving target to add some excitement to extra points. I think I was channelling both Charlie O. Finley and Bill Veeck at the same time on that thought.
    You have some interesting thoughts. Perhaps you could sell them to the arena football league first to see if they fly

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    Re: The Extra Point - Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    Of course they could. It's not like there's a commercial between the TD and the XP.
    But there is one between the XP and kickoff and one between the kickoff return and next series. I think that is what they are referring to.


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