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Now you saw him miss a couple of balls one game, so he sucks and these other guys pull stuff out of the air that says he's not good and his range "could" decline as he gets older...as far as I know, he is an average defender and fielding at 1B will not keep him from playing at the MLB level. Nobody here has any source that would say anything different.
I once saw a ball go through Thomas Howard's legs...He caught the next one and we cheered and he laughed. I once saw Brett Boone drop a throw at 2B from the SS...I saw Larkin make an error...I once saw Alfonso Soriano make a diving catch...who cares? One day and a couple of plays don't define a player's defensive abilities.
Of course. Point being, these plays were so strikingly bad that I feel they're worth mentioning. He also got eaten up on a ball hit hard to his backhand side. Again, just one play in one game, but it was ugly.I once saw a ball go through Thomas Howard's legs...He caught the next one and we cheered and he laughed. I once saw Brett Boone drop a throw at 2B from the SS...I saw Larkin make an error...I once saw Alfonso Soriano make a diving catch...who cares? One day and a couple of plays don't define a player's defensive abilities.
So yes, he may be mediocre, or slightly worse. We might say that instead of flashing the leather, he's been flapping it.
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Mark Sheldon / MLB.com: Alonso can also play catcher and third base, but first base is considered his primary position. Scouting reports about his defense aren't overly enthusiastic, however.
If the majority of scouts and prospect sites have said he has "defensive issues," (i.e., slow afoot, glove issues, footwork issues, range issues, et al) would that work for you, Bumstead?
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So Scrap: point me to a respected source that even hints that Alonso will be a DH-only by the age of 25 and I will agree that the comparisons to Edgar Martinez and Travis Hafner are valid. Otherwise, they are silly comps and that was all I was saying from the beginning.
Its Alonso not Alonzo.
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Last edited by Lockdwn11; 01-19-2010 at 06:04 PM.
Alonso is an average defender at first base. Where the notion that he wasn't came from I still haven't figured out. Its almost as if because no one has said he is a plus defender at first that he is a terrible defender at first.
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