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    Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    From Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports:

    Cabrera agrees to 1-year deal with Reds. 3 mil. Second-year option for another 3 mil.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Well, that was anti-climactic.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    I can live with it.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    I hope the option is a team option.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I hope the option is a team option.
    Me too. I think 2011 should be Cozart's year.
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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I hope the option is a team option.
    So do I.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Looks like we can relax on the SS issue.

    How much will this guys defense help the pitching?

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    Orlando Cabrera SS Age 35
    2009 -- 	.284 .316 .389 .705
    2008 CWS 	.281 .334 .371 .705
    2007 LAA 	.301 .345 .397 .742 
    2006 LAA 	.282 .335 .404 .739 
    
    2009 vs right .289 .311 .400 .711	vs left .271 .327 .362 .689
    2008 vs right .284 .327 .361 .688	vs left .273 .354 .400 .754
    2007 vs right .299 .339 .376 .715	vs left .308 .369 .474 .843
     
    2010 James 	.323 .377 .700 
    2010 CHONE	.326 .374 .700
    Last edited by Spring~Fields; 01-30-2010 at 11:44 PM.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    Looks like we can relax on the SS issue.

    How much will this guys defense help the pitching?
    Depends on which Cabrera shows up. If experts on UZR can be believed, Cabrera is probably right around average as a SS, perhaps a bit better. His bat is around 700, according to projections.

    He's a meh signing, IMO, and offers little upside. But he's the devil you know.
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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Depends on which Cabrera shows up. If experts on UZR can be believed, Cabrera is probably right around average as a SS, perhaps a bit better. His bat is around 700, according to projections.

    He's a meh signing, IMO, and offers little upside. But he's the devil you know.
    Looks he can contribute, of course we all hope for the best.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Depends on which Cabrera shows up. If experts on UZR can be believed, Cabrera is probably right around average as a SS, perhaps a bit better. His bat is around 700, according to projections.

    He's a meh signing, IMO, and offers little upside. But he's the devil you know.
    This isn't directed at you, Scrap, but what would the feeling(s) have been around here had the Reds NOT signed Cabrera? I think Jocketty did what he had to do for 2010. Cabrera had the leverage and both sides knew it IMO. Too bad it will cost the team between $4-$6 million for O.Cab's services. Was hoping for 1 year at $2 - $2.5 mil.

    Give Bob Castellini credit. With last year's relatively poor attendance totals, BC is "putting his money where his mouth is".

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    if he is healthy i think its a good deal. he is an upgrade over janish with the bat. also we don't have to rush frazier to SS.
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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    I was hoping it would be a minor league contract, or at worst a one-year deal worth no more than $2M. I'm not sure how much of an improvement Cabrera is over Janish at this point in his career. If Cabrera returns to 2008 form, he'll be a fairly big improvement over Janish. If he has another season like 2009 then he'll actually be a downgrade. Let's hope he can play more like the 2008 Orlando Cabrera instead of the 2009 version.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I was hoping it would be a minor league contract, or at worst a one-year deal worth no more than $2M. I'm not sure how much of an improvement Cabrera is over Janish at this point in his career. If Cabrera returns to 2008 form, he'll be a fairly big improvement over Janish. If he has another season like 2009 then he'll actually be a downgrade. Let's hope he can play more like the 2008 Orlando Cabrera instead of the 2009 version.
    This pretty much sums up my feelings as well.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I was hoping it would be a minor league contract, or at worst a one-year deal worth no more than $2M. I'm not sure how much of an improvement Cabrera is over Janish at this point in his career. If Cabrera returns to 2008 form, he'll be a fairly big improvement over Janish. If he has another season like 2009 then he'll actually be a downgrade. Let's hope he can play more like the 2008 Orlando Cabrera instead of the 2009 version.
    Of course I wasn't looking at fielding statistics, but 2008 and 2009 seem like almost identical years--and pretty good ones. In 08, his line was
    .281/.334/.705 and in 09 it was 0284/.316/.705. He hits for a higher average against lefties, but hits for higher average against lefties. His stats are respectible. Looks like a good signing to me, but like you say, let's hope a 36-year old Cabrera only comes back if we want him.

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    Re: Reds sign Orlando Cabrera to one-year, $3M deal; option for second year

    I really like having Cabrera. The entire infield is proven. If they do indeed sign Gomes they might have a shot at something.
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