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    CF Drew Stubbs

    Centerfield will be Drew Stubbs' job to lose in Goodyear, AZ. I liked watching him play this past season and I like his upside. Look forward to watching him again in 2010.

    Keep him in the leadoff spot in the order as well!
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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    I'd rather see Dickerson leadoff and Stubbs hit 9th.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    I'd rather see Dickerson leadoff and Stubbs hit 9th.
    A la Tony LaRussa? I think Stubbs will be better than Dickerson in all phases. Not hatin' on Dickerson. I like him and I love his heart and hustle. Just my observation.
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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redlegs View Post
    A la Tony LaRussa? I think Stubbs will be better than Dickerson in all phases. Not hatin' on Dickerson. I like him and I love his heart and hustle. Just my observation.
    I think it's fine for Stubbs to leadoff once he proves he's a better on base guy. Dickerson is more proven (or less unproven, depending on how you look at it) at being able to get on-base. Only Votto got on more often of any player with >200 PAs in 2009.

    This is all purely academic because I'm pretty sure the stone tablet lineups with Stubbs name carved into the leadoff spot have already been ordered.


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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    If the Reds had one of the game's top 5 or 10 best hitting left fielders, then they could platoon Stubbs and Dickerson in CF.
    Last edited by Far East; 02-15-2010 at 03:32 PM.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    As it with most baseball statistics, there is more to it than simply OBP. Dickerson is an excellent 2 hitter. Batting LH, with Stubbs a threat to steal on first, forces the defense to hold Stubbs and opens up the right side of the infield for Dickerson. It also gives the opposing pitchers two things to worry about. Dickerson is likely to see more fastballs as a result.

    Of course, this presumes that Stubbs is as productive this year as he was last year. If his OBP is low, all bets are off. Still, in mid-Feb, batting Dickerson behind Stubbs looks like a good plan.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Where's all of JimBo's 5 tool outfielders when we need 'em? I know, just like Bowden....they're long gone.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Vada Pinson Fan View Post
    Where's all of JimBo's 5 tool outfielders when we need 'em? I know, just like Bowden....they're long gone.
    Chris Dickerson is still around. He is a Jimbo guy.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Nobody will be rooting for Drew Stubbs more than me but I honestly believe Chris Dickerson is just as good if not better than Drew Stubbs.

    I'll duck and cover now.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Nobody will be rooting for Drew Stubbs more than me but I honestly believe Chris Dickerson is just as good if not better than Drew Stubbs.

    I'll duck and cover now.
    Dickerson will strike out a little more, walk a little more, play slightly less defense and steal fewer bases. Stubbs has bigger raw power and maybe a tad more current power, which is what really could separate the two in the future. For today though, the two are pretty similar players.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Dickerson will strike out a little more, walk a little more, play slightly less defense and steal fewer bases. Stubbs has bigger raw power and maybe a tad more current power, which is what really could separate the two in the future. For today though, the two are pretty similar players.
    A Dickerson/Heisey platoon is a better player than Stubbs will ever be.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Nobody will be rooting for Drew Stubbs more than me but I honestly believe Chris Dickerson is just as good if not better than Drew Stubbs.

    I'll duck and cover now.
    Dickerson is also going to be 28 this season where Stubbs will be 25. We have most likely seen Dickerson's ceiling and have yet to see Stubbs' for various reasons.

    Dickerson is a 4th OF type where Stubbs at least has the potential to be better than that.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Vada Pinson Fan View Post
    Where's all of JimBo's 5 tool outfielders when we need 'em? I know, just like Bowden....they're long gone.
    Balentien would have been Bowden's #1 target.

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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    I don't care. I'm still euphoric that Taveras is now longer in the equation.

    I'm glad to see that the Nats have signed Taveras to a minor league deal, because I wouldn't have put it past this organization to have tried the same.
    Last edited by GAC; 02-17-2010 at 04:24 AM.
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    Re: CF Drew Stubbs

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    I don't care. I'm still euphoric that Taveras is now longer in the equation.
    I'm glad to see that the Nats have signed Taveras to a minor league deal, because I wouldn't have put it past this organization to have tried the same.
    Though the names of Patterson and Taveras have been expunged from the current roster, a contributing culprit and poor theory or superstition of batting low on base percentage in front of players paid to drive them in has not ended as far as we know, nor has the particular problem of a roster filled with players who do not hit right handed pitching very well.

    So we come to the beginnings of a new with a hope in players and a manager being able do what they have not done of recent seasons that have passed. Perhaps baseball luck will be on the fans side in 2010. Center, Left, and right will have to be better than they have been when they step up to the plate.
    Last edited by Spring~Fields; 02-17-2010 at 09:22 AM.


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