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    Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Alonso trying third base, outfield

    Many have wondered what would happen to Joey Votto when Yonder Alonso reaches the big leagues since both are good young hitters and of course, both play first base.

    In an effort to see if can be versatile, the Reds have had Alonso working out lately at third base, left field and right field.

    "It doesn't matter where I play as long as I play," Alonso said. "As long as I get a shot and prove to the guys I can play there. In my head, I know I can play. I just want to get my shot.

    "I'm doing everything, and they're trying everything, so I can go up there."

    Right now, it's just a trial run for Alonso. He's still primarily working out at first base.

    "We just wanted to expose him to some different positions and see if he feels comfortable," general manager Walt Jocketty said. "We'll see how it goes. If it goes well enough, we'll put him in some games at different positions. It would just make him more valuable to us if he can play other places."

    Lots of speculation has involved Votto being moved to left field when Alonso is ready for his promotion. Jocketty dispelled that notion.

    "It will take some time to figure it out," he said. "That's why we want to see him at different positions. He's got a great bat and Joey is going to be at first base for a long time. I don't see moving Joey."

    More on this later today on MLB.com/Reds.com

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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Good, Votto has proven himself to be a future face of this franchise. I think 10 years from now we will be very happy that we kept votto at 1B.

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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Alonso is July trade bait...
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Alonso is July trade bait...
    Not to turn it into the Beckham/Alonso debate again, but it really does make you wonder what they were thinking....

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    Don't the reds have thirdbaseman that they've committed to for a couple of years?
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Not to turn it into the Beckham/Alonso debate again, but it really does make you wonder what they were thinking....
    Best player available and that is the way it should be.
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Well 3B is a better idea than catcher but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    Best player available and that is the way it should be.
    I agree completely. If Alonso proves himself to be a decent ML hitter, it's a good problem to have. I want the Reds to be forced to have to decide where they're going to play three very good young hitters (Votto, Bruce, Alonso) over the next several years. And I would prefer that they all three be on our team.
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Seems like the Reds aren't very big on commiting prospects to a position. Francisco, Frazier, now Alonso. Playing all over the lot. Hope it works out.

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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    I agree that the team should take the best player available... but I'm not sure that Alonso WAS the best player available, especially considering that Beckham is a heavy-hitting middle infielder--not exactly the type that grows on trees, if you know what I mean. Sure, if their estimation was that Yonder was a better overall player at the time, I'm okay with it. That said, given Alonso's defensive liabilities and Beckham's rarity as a good hitter at a weak position, I'd be really interested in knowing what the thought process was for Buckley and the Reds scouts to arrive at that conclusion.
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    There is no doubt that if the reds had beckham playing SS right now instead of Alonso in AAA they would be in better position to win now and in the next few years. My guess is that the reds thought alonsos bat was to much to pass up and they thought beckham could only play 2nd. I would have rather had beckham but hindsight is 20/20.

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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Not to turn it into the Beckham/Alonso debate again, but it really does make you wonder what they were thinking....
    They did not know at the time how good Votto was going to be. None of us did.

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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    Don't the reds have thirdbaseman that they've committed to for a couple of years?

    A couple of years. Plus Rolen isn't exactly known for staying healthy. I expect that to worsen as he gets older.
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Quote Originally Posted by dunner13 View Post
    There is no doubt that if the reds had beckham playing SS right now instead of Alonso in AAA they would be in better position to win now and in the next few years. My guess is that the reds thought alonsos bat was to much to pass up and they thought beckham could only play 2nd. I would have rather had beckham but hindsight is 20/20.
    There's a solid chance Beckham will never play SS. That's the thing. There were questions about his ability to play there defensively, and the Sox have since converted him to third. I don't mind the logic that, even as a third baseman, he was more valuable a prospect than Yonder Alonso. However, if it was based on the premise that he's a great-hitting middle infielder, then that premise seems to be based on somewhat faulty logic if he doesn't in fact have the glove to stay there.
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    Re: Alonso trying 3B, OF. Jocketty: "I don't see us moving Joey"

    Here's the thing. Votto is a GREAT hitter. But I don't think his defense ought to be dismissed, either. Votto has worked hard on his defense. I think he has worked on his defense so much that he has turned it from a liability into a pretty decent asset.

    He may not be a Gold Glover, but I'd say Joey is solid average, and maybe a tick or two better than average. And it wouldn't surprise me if in three or four years, Votto isn't one of the top three defensive 1B's in the NL.

    Wasn't he drafted as a catcher? Didn't the Reds experiment with Votto at 3B for part of a season in the low minors?
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