He's potentially playing LF at AAA this year. Frazier could slot into any opening except CF and C. Heisey has a shot at CF if things go bad for CD AND Stubbs. He's in the conversation. He may not be the first name brought up, but you can be sure they are listing him on a depth chart for both 3B and LF.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Alonso has less then 80 games in the minor leagues so far. Scouting reports on his tools are the only way anyone could possibly project how well he plays defense at this point.
We have an idea of his defensive potential (and when that defensive potential is "he should be adequate at first base" be very afraid), but that's a far, far cry from knowing that he plays an average 1st base in the minors, let alone how well he will play in the majors.
Last edited by OUReds; 03-01-2010 at 04:47 PM.
I don't think anyone is talking about Votto switching to LF or even thinking about it right now. I suggested that when Alonso was ready to play everyday in MLB that Jockety may change his tune about moving Votto. Until then it is a mute point which is why I think people are reading too much into Jockety's comments.
As for Jeter...I agree with Doug; when A-Rod was acquired Jeter was the second best SS on the Yankees. How long did Jeter pout because A-Rod got so much attention? Best player getting the attention, crazy I say!
In the end, I don't see the fun in watching a Reds prospect fail but to each his own I guess.
Bum
Define "play" for me.
Actually, the reason why that move worked, a few years later, was that both of their bats could justify below average defense, no matter where they played. Votto's bat clearly can justify him in LF, even if he is as bad as Manny. We just don't know enough about Alonso, either his offense or defense, to make any judgment.
That's why I agree with you, that given what we know currently, moving Votto to LF makes the most sense. However, it also makes sense to see how Alonso does at other positions, just in case.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
Having Alonso, Heisey, Fransisco, Frazier and the others nipping at the heels of the guys now in the majors is a good problem to have. In fact, I can't remember a time when the Reds have had as many young players and prospects (both pitching and hitting) that were at AAA or in the majors.
Wherever Alonso (and the others play), I'm very excited to see these guys play this year and next.
Where we gonna go?
We know, based on scouting, that Alonso is going to be a very bad left fielder because he is very slow. Third base may be an option I guess, but when does he get time to play there? Are they going to split time with Francisco in Louisville? What about Frazier ever getting a start at 3B down there?
Joey Votto is also an established, big league 1st baseman. You can play Alonso in LF for the entire minor league season and see what he can do out there. It makes no sense to make your hands down, best player move positions in the majors when you can have your prospect (which is all Alonso) screw around trying new positions in the minor league.
You make Alonso move, you don't make Votto move.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
It makes perfect sense to give Votto time out there in spring, when it doesn't matter. So if Alonso bursts onto the scene in July you can make a decision and Votto has some experience there in a recent season (last played LF in 2007). If the Reds are not just giving us lip service on the situation with Alonso, then they really need to take a strong look at Votto to LF because it makes the absolute most sense of any other scenario (Heisey/Frazier/Francisco in LF.... not likely to be as valuable as Votto/Alonso manning LF/1B).
If he might not be able to play reasonable defense at 1B then what can he do? I was just trying to be logical in following along with what you were posting. How about answering the questions that I asked? What is different about 1B defense between College/Minor Leagues and MLB?
Bum
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