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    Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    According to reports the BoSox are looking for help in the bullpen and a utility INFer who can back up at SS.

    Thoughts?

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    According to reports the BoSox are looking for help in the bullpen and a utility INFer who can back up at SS.

    Thoughts?
    Sure how about Miles, Lincoln and Balentein for Hermida!
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    According to reports the BoSox are looking for help in the bullpen and a utility INFer who can back up at SS.

    Thoughts?
    These kinds of deals don't usually happen in spring and its doubtful that the Reds are even thinking along these lines, but Janish, Burton, Lincoln and Wlad for Jeremy Hermida. Gomes & Hermida would be a fine platoon in LF that would really go a long way toward fixing the offense.

    Wlad could be the 4th OF in Boston, Janish would be the SS depth they are looking for and Burton would bolster the pen. Lincoln would give them another arm to look at and would help even up the cash.

    Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, whoever.

    Owings, Maloney, Ondrusek, Herrera, Rhodes, Masset, Cordero.

    Hernandez, Hanigan

    Votto, Phillips, Cabrera, Rolen, Sutton, Miles (ugh!)

    Bruce, Stubbs, Hermida, Gomes, Dickerson
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Sure how about Miles, Lincoln and Balentein for Hermida!
    Didn't see your post, but Hermida would be perfect for the reds. The Reds would need to give up more for him though and still may not be able to get him.
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Didn't see your post, but Hermida would be perfect for the reds. The Reds would need to give up more for him though and still may not be able to get him.
    I'm sure your right but I'd take a shot, heck I'd have nothing to lose.
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    While Hermida is fine, I'd be looking for a prospect or two. How about Miles and Lincoln for a low A C prospect and a low A suspect with talent but no production? Because there's little chance the Sox make a deal for actual major league talent and add payroll.

    The loss of payroll alone (about $45 million) means the Reds could upgrade at another position at the Trading Deadline.
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    According to reports the BoSox are looking for help in the bullpen and a utility INFer who can back up at SS.

    Thoughts?
    Didn't they just get an IF (Fradson from SF) and a reliever?

    http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...eweis_rea.html

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Why the continued fascination with Hermida, a career .769 OPS hitter, .740 last year. I'd take my chances on Wlad first whom is a year younger I believe.

    Put me in the dump salary and be happy with it camp.

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Why the continued fascination with Hermida, a career .769 OPS hitter, .740 last year. I'd take my chances on Wlad first whom is a year younger I believe.

    Put me in the dump salary and be happy with it camp.
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Why the continued fascination with Hermida, a career .769 OPS hitter, .740 last year. I'd take my chances on Wlad first whom is a year younger I believe.

    Put me in the dump salary and be happy with it camp.
    Just cut him from my strat team

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Didn't they just get an IF (Fradson from SF) and a reliever?
    Yes. I just checked mlbtraderumors.com and noticed both of those moves have been made.

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Why the continued fascination with Hermida, a career .769 OPS hitter, .740 last year. I'd take my chances on Wlad first whom is a year younger I believe.

    Put me in the dump salary and be happy with it camp.
    Just take a look at the mans splits outside of cavernous Florida. Just like Beltre the Red Sox are pretty smart at picking guys who are bound to do much better offensively than many suspect them to because they delve deeper. His LH power (in GABP and NL Central) would be a welcome addition to this lineup in a platoon with Gomes or not.

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Just take a look at the mans splits outside of cavernous Florida. Just like Beltre the Red Sox are pretty smart at picking guys who are bound to do much better offensively than many suspect them to because they delve deeper. His LH power (in GABP and NL Central) would be a welcome addition to this lineup in a platoon with Gomes or not.

    Career .815 OPS away from Florida (112 OPS+) .276/.359/.456
    Career .792 OPS vs. RHP (106 OPS+) .274/.351/.441
    And he's a below average fielder, even in left.

    I still don't see those numbers being an upgrade over Balentien, especially when you consider Wlad's upside, speed and defense.

    The team would save around $1M in that deal, but I'd still rather have Wlad than Hermida and the extra $1M.
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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Just take a look at the mans splits outside of cavernous Florida. Just like Beltre the Red Sox are pretty smart at picking guys who are bound to do much better offensively than many suspect them to because they delve deeper. His LH power (in GABP and NL Central) would be a welcome addition to this lineup in a platoon with Gomes or not.

    Career .815 OPS away from Florida (112 OPS+) .276/.359/.456
    Career .792 OPS vs. RHP (106 OPS+) .274/.351/.441
    Agreed. If he can get on the field regularly this season I think he'll have a good year. I'd love to see him as a Red.

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    Re: Could the Reds make a deal with Boston?

    They signed Schoeneweis and Alan Embree, and traded for Frandsen. Jed Lowrie has mono, of all things.
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