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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    80 wins - 730 RS.

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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    82 wins

    The losing streak stops at 9.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    83 wins. And I think that's conservative, as:

    Better offense
    10 Rolen > 09 EdE et al.
    10 Stubbs > 09 Taveras
    10 Cabrera > 09 Janish, AGon
    10 Bruce > 09 Bruce
    10 Phillips = 09 Phillips
    10 Hernandez/ Hanigan = 09 Hernandez/ Hanigan
    10 Gomes, Dickerson < 09 Gomes, Dickerson
    10 Votto < 09 Votto

    Better defense
    10 Rolen > 09 EdE et al.
    10 Stubbs > 09 Taveras
    10 Gomes, Dickerson > 09 Gomes, Dickerson
    10 Bruce = 09 Bruce
    10 Phillips = 09 Phillips
    10 Votto =09 Votto
    10 Hernandez/ Hanigan = 09 Hernandez/ Hanigan
    10 Cabrera < 09 Janish, AGon

    Better starting staff
    10 Cueto > 09 Cueto
    10 Bailey > 09 Bailey
    10 Chapman/ Leake/ Wood > 09 Owings/ Lehr/ Maloney/ Wells
    10 Arroyo = 09 Arroyo
    10 Harang = 09 Harang

    If they stay healthy, this team has a chance. If not, they don't. Pretty simple.
    So the LF offense is worse this year, but the D is better. And its the same two guys. And Rolen will be better offensively than EE et al, even though Rolen was a big part of et al. In fact he played in only 4 fewer games than EE. It should have read Rosales et al as Rosales led the reds in games played at 3B last year.


    just sayin'.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    84 wins. +30 runs in the RS/RA columns.

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    75 wins
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    82-80.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    The overall concensus seems to be in the mid to high 80s. I agree with this. there is no doubt that on paper this team is the most talented we have had in a while. we also get to play a lot of games against our weak NL central foes. I am going to guess 86-76. if i had to take an over/under on 86 i would take the over. the Reds do have a lot of young guys with All Star potential. if several of them bust out we could slip into the playoffs.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    84 wins. +30 runs in the RS/RA columns.
    I want to make sure that I understand this correctly.

    When you say 30+ runs are you saying that the Reds will score 30 more runs and allow 30 more runs than they did last year. 2009 RS 673 +30 = 703 RS 2010 and 2009 RA 723 +30 = 753 RA

    Is that what you mean or did I misunderstand?

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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    So the LF offense is worse this year, but the D is better. And its the same two guys. And Rolen will be better offensively than EE et al, even though Rolen was a big part of et al. In fact he played in only 4 fewer games than EE. It should have read Rosales et al as Rosales led the reds in games played at 3B last year.


    just sayin'.
    Dickerson has had an entire season and off-season to improve at a position he only had passing playing time at his entire minor league career. He struggled early last season; I don't expect him to struggle again early this season. Gomes, while still a below average player, has lost weight and should be able to range further into the gaps and make plays. Add to that Stubbs' remarkable range in CF (meaning the LFers can concentrate and shade a step or two toward the line, thereby cutting doubles to singles, or, even better, outs) and it all adds up to better D, despite the fact that the same players are responsible for the majority of the playing time.

    EdE was the erstwhile starter last season and his struggles were a HUGE part of the 3B black hole offensively. That's why he goes first. He was being counted on and failed miserably. Rosales' numbers certainly did nothing to help the Reds either. Either way, it's a semantic argument. Suffice it to say, Rolen for an entire season should mean a fairly large uptick in production from 09.

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    I want to make sure that I understand this correctly.

    When you say 30+ runs are you saying that the Reds will score 30 more runs and allow 30 more runs than they did last year. 2009 RS 673 +30 = 703 RS 2010 and 2009 RA 723 +30 = 753 RA

    Is that what you mean or did I misunderstand?
    He's saying the Reds will give up 30 less runs than they score this season.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    I think a more fun game would be predicting what number each poster would predict. To be honest, this year, I would be doing much worse than I expected. Makes this thread even more interesting.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    I'm not overly optimistic about this team but I have a hard time believing they'll do WORSE than last ear.
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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    I'm not overly optimistic about this team but I have a hard time believing they'll do WORSE than last ear.
    I agree with that. The problem is assessing how bad exactly was that 2009 team. Because although the Reds came up with 78 wins, they were 27-13 over the last 40, many of which were meaningless for both sides.
    And how different was that team of the last quarter of the season (starring Stubbs and Bailey) from the 2010 team?

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    Re: 2010 - Gonelong's 9th annual Season Ws prediction thread .

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    I agree with that. The problem is assessing how bad exactly was that 2009 team. Because although the Reds came up with 78 wins, they were 27-13 over the last 40, many of which were meaningless for both sides.
    And how different was that team of the last quarter of the season (starring Stubbs and Bailey) from the 2010 team?

    Can't wait to start the real games.
    Not to mention a whole ton of other variables. How different are the teams we are playing this season than last? We play an uneven schedule inside the division so do we play the Cubs more and the Pirates less this year (3 game difference)? And so on.

    2009
    13-5 vs. Pittsburgh (18 games)
    12-4 vs. Houston (16 games)
    8-8 vs. St. Louis (16 games)
    8-7 vs. Milwaukee (15 games)
    5-10 vs Chicago (15 games)

    46-34 vs. NL Central 12 games over .500

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