It's a balancing act. You bring in a more offensive minded SS but lose defense and hence hurt the young pitching. The problem here is this...there are very few shortstops out there available. And even fewer that fit our needs. So I'd say we stick with the well above average defense there and work to improve our offensive output in other areas. Batting Janish near the bottom of the order would be a start. :O)
I don't think it matters when all the players in your lineup have similar production.But then again, I really don't think it matters much where guys bat in the lineup, which is mostly why I believe the above.
"Bring on Rod Stupid!"
Heisey does not have a better bat than Stubbs. Stubbs has proven to this point to have a very good bat in CF at the MLB level. Heisey has proven to be a good minor league baseball player; until he proves it at the MLB level and outdoes Stubbs at the MLB level your statement is, well, fictitious and based on pure bias at best.
There is no basis or anything to rely upon to suggest that Janish will ever get better as a hitter, so to suggest that he can add 20 hits in 240-ish AB's (his approximate AB's from last season) just doesn't wash. Janish's BABIP was not abnormal for him; he's just that bad. Cabrera is a reasonable stop-gap while Cozart develops or the Reds trade for someone else. Janish is a reasonable utility IF for now. Omar Vizquel in his late 30's makes Janish look silly offensively...
I just think that the overall philosophy of having a speedy high OBP guy leadoff, a guy who is good at getting the leadoff hitter into scoring position second, your best overall hitter third, and power guys after that is just as productive a philosophy as putting your putting your best OBP guys at the top of the lineup.
Theoretically, the latter should net a team a handful more runs over a season, but there are way too many variables that can't be controlled that really make it a toss up over any given season.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
I think the Cabrera was the most financially prudent as well as solid baseball move the Reds could have made over the off season. They needed depth at SS and Cabrera at worst adds that. If his defense continues to suffer I don't think the Reds will hesitate to give Janish more PT. I didn't think I would even say this but I think Janish's offensive prowess is beginning to get a little out of control here on RZ.
"Bring on Rod Stupid!"
And that would be great if the Reds would put a "speedy high OBP guy" (Chris Dickerson) in the leadoff spot. The "guy who is good at getting the leadoff hitter into scoring position second" is Scott Rolen, not OCab.I just think that the overall philosophy of having a speedy high OBP guy leadoff, a guy who is good at getting the leadoff hitter into scoring position second, your best overall hitter third, and power guys after that is just as productive a philosophy as putting your putting your best OBP guys at the top of the lineup.
At least Dusty gets the three guy right!
It's not like the variables lessen with the former.Theoretically, the latter should net a team a handful more runs over a season, but there are way too many variables that can't be controlled that really make it a toss up over any given season.
"Bring on Rod Stupid!"
Trying to improve hitting through the catcher is as hard as improving hitting at SS, and likely a greater impact on a young staff.
Put it this way, with the young latin starters this team has is there really all that wonder about the latin guys in the key defensive positions during their development? I mean who is a more likely mentor to them Janish or OC, Hernandez or Hanigan or mystery slamming catcher?
My take is the Reds don't see Janish as the answer at this point and they looked to fill his shoes with a guy that might end up helping them more in the coming years than this year. The same can be said for Hernadez and Hanigan.
Both positions are traditionally defensive position manned more often than not by older guys when a team can't fill them adequetly in-house... which IMO is what we're seeing right now with the Reds
Drew Stubbs career Minor League OPS .765 and trended down as he moved up
Chris Heisey career Minor League OPS .830 and trended up until AAA where he posted a .789 OPS
You are basing this on 180 MLB AB's. So I'd guess Stubbs is a better bat than Heywood too. After all He has only one MLB HR.
Back on topic. Developing later in a career is very fashionable now. I call it the Ryan Ludwick Syndrome. Players seem to be coming into their own at a later age. Garret Jone in PIT, Nelson Cruz etc. It's all the rage. You could really call it the Ryan Freel Effect (which now that i think of it is a nice name for a band). Sometime you have to value what a player does without ripping him for what he doesn't. Yeah I should take my own advice.
Last edited by TRF; 04-07-2010 at 03:16 PM.
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The eyes never lie.
Janish...positive...he's an OK utility IF and as long as he doesn't get 200 AB's, I don't care. Otherwise, he's a drag on the team. Those guys you mention above all had one tool that Janish does not have (not Freel) and that is POP (Freel had more than Janish...whatever that is good for...). Janish is Pop-less...I just don't see the correlation between Ryan Ludwick, Nelson Cruz, Garrett Jones and Paul Janish...it's like the sesame street song: One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong...can you guess which one is not like the others by the time I finish this post?
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