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    Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    how FA eligibility, arbitration eligibility, super 2 status, team control, and all that works. Just the whole process. Simply, please. Thanks!

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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    * Teams control players for up to six (6) seasons of service before free agency

    * You can renew players from year to year, before arbitration, at any salary you want above the league minimum

    * Players can be optioned to the minors in three seasons before being required to stay on the active roster

    * After three seasons of service, players are eligible for arbitration

    * The top 17% of players in service that have over 2 years of service are "Super Two" players and eligible for arbitration

    * Arbitration is decided by both the club and player giving a figure they feel is deserved based on quality of play, level of contribution to the club, popularity, intangibles, etc. The arbitration panel decides on one figure or the other and the player is re-signed at that amount for that season. Clubs can first agree to a contract before arbitration, sign them to a long-term deal to buy out arbitration or they can non-tender the player and let them be a free agent.

    * A year of service is considered 172 days on the active roster (this includes off-days). There are about 192 calendar days during an actual season. So if you are in the minors less than three weeks, you have a full year of service regardless of your time in the minors.

    Once you accrue 6.0 years of service, you are a free agent after the season you get to that point.
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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    Thanks a lot, both of you. Reading the espn article now.

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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    * Teams control players for up to six (6) seasons of service before free agency

    * You can renew players from year to year, before arbitration, at any salary you want above the league minimum

    * Players can be optioned to the minors in three seasons before being required to stay on the active roster

    * After three seasons of service, players are eligible for arbitration

    * The top 17% of players in service that have over 2 years of service are "Super Two" players and eligible for arbitration

    * Arbitration is decided by both the club and player giving a figure they feel is deserved based on quality of play, level of contribution to the club, popularity, intangibles, etc. The arbitration panel decides on one figure or the other and the player is re-signed at that amount for that season. Clubs can first agree to a contract before arbitration, sign them to a long-term deal to buy out arbitration or they can non-tender the player and let them be a free agent.

    * A year of service is considered 172 days on the active roster (this includes off-days). There are about 192 calendar days during an actual season. So if you are in the minors less than three weeks, you have a full year of service regardless of your time in the minors.

    Once you accrue 6.0 years of service, you are a free agent after the season you get to that point.
    Counting his minor league service time, a team can actually control a player for up to 13 years....
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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Counting his minor league service time, a team can actually control a player for up to 13 years....
    Good point. A player could be 35 before getting to negotiate his first open-market contract lol
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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    Espn article was very helpful!

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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    I'm still not sure what "controlling a player" means. Is the player forced to sign whatever contract the team presents him?

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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    I'm still not sure what "controlling a player" means. Is the player forced to sign whatever contract the team presents him?

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    It just means the player is not eligible for free agency while under the team's control.

    A player is not forced to sign any contract, even a renewal, but they can't go elsewhere until they are a free agent. Arbitration is the player's chance to either negotiate their own deal with the club or let the arbitration judges decide what salary the team signs the player for.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: Can someone knowledgeable please explain...

    It just means the player is not eligible for free agency while under the team's control.

    A player is not forced to sign any contract, even a renewal, but they can't go elsewhere until they are a free agent. Arbitration is the player's chance to either negotiate their own deal with the club or let the arbitration judges decide what salary the team signs the player for.
    Okay. Gotcha. Thanks!

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