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    Quote Originally Posted by TStuck View Post
    Has anybody actually read Volquez's statement? From the comments on here, I assume not. The statement says the drug (whatever it was) was prescribed meds he took while back in D.R. that were given for the purpose of assisting he and his wife to start a family. He even alluded to this being due to some common physical issue which interferes with such efforts.
    So can all you executioners please take down your nooses??? Seems like an extremely plausible and justifiable explanation to me. Guilty for taking a PED? Yes. Was it some nefarious plan to get ahead? Doesn't sound like it. Give the guy a break.
    I think its a possible story but hes either a liar or an extremely stupid person. I'm talking beyond stupid that he doesnt understand that there is a major league drug testing policy and doesnt check to see if drugs he is on is on the banned list. So pick your poison? Is he this mentally challenged or is it possible that hes just using a common problem to cover up what he was trying to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I think its a possible story but hes either a liar or an extremely stupid person. I'm talking beyond stupid that he doesnt understand that there is a major league drug testing policy and doesnt check to see if drugs he is on is on the banned list. So pick your poison? Is he this mentally challenged or is it possible that hes just using a common problem to cover up what he was trying to do?
    Man, what did this guy ever do to you. Being on my team I would like to believe him that what he was taking was to treat an issue and help him have a child. And if it were the case, the major league drug testing list was probably not the #1 thing on his mind if him and his wife are trying to have a child. There are bigger things in life than baseball, and could it be the thought never crossed his mind that it would be seen as a PED. I am sure it boosts testosterone in some fashion which it is why it is on the list, but if you are getting it prescribed to treat that sort of condition you might just not even think it would be considered a performance enhancer. Sure it was a bit careless, but no reason to classify him as "extremely stupid" and "beyond stupid."

    And if it is the case he was lying, oh well he saves the Reds some cash and probably speeds up his recovery, might help was win another game or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    Man, what did this guy ever do to you. Being on my team I would like to believe him that what he was taking was to treat an issue and help him have a child. And if it were the case, the major league drug testing list was probably not the #1 thing on his mind if him and his wife are trying to have a child. There are bigger things in life than baseball, and could it be the thought never crossed his mind that it would be seen as a PED. I am sure it boosts testosterone in some fashion which it is why it is on the list, but if you are getting it prescribed to treat that sort of condition you might just not even think it would be considered a performance enhancer. Sure it was a bit careless, but no reason to classify him as "extremely stupid" and "beyond stupid."

    And if it is the case he was lying, oh well he saves the Reds some cash and probably speeds up his recovery, might help was win another game or two.
    So having trying to have a kid made him forget that he plays baseball for a living? If he cared so much about having a baby then maybe he should have checked the list so he wouldnt be losing 120k in salary that could be used to raise his child that hes trying to have. So yes he's either making a plausible excuse up or he is stupid.

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    Re: Volquez to be suspended 50 games for PED use

    Very strange.

    It's no big deal, except that if he gets caught again, isn't it something like a year suspension? Or, is it less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    So having trying to have a kid made him forget that he plays baseball for a living? If he cared so much about having a baby then maybe he should have checked the list so he wouldnt be losing 120k in salary that could be used to raise his child that hes trying to have. So yes he's either making a plausible excuse up or he is stupid.
    That other 300K probably won't be enough. He must be modeling his family life after Latrell "I got my family to feed" Sprewell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Very strange.

    It's no big deal, except that if he gets caught again, isn't it something like a year suspension? Or, is it less?
    , 100 games I believe. Then a lifetime ban.

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    Re: Volquez to be suspended 50 games for PED use

    Unacceptable.

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    [QUOTE=nemesis;2060468]It has to be HGH. Most of your Steroids injection based or oral will not help someone recover from any type pf ligament damage. As a matter of fact most Steroid based injuries occur because the muscle will grow so rapidly and your strength increases so quickly that you end up injuring ligaments that are still at prejuiced strength. I tore my rotator cuff this way.. Where HGH helps burn fat, tighten skin, increase your muscle atrophy recovery, and strengthen ligaments.

    Can't say I blame the kid. But it explains why he was recovering ahead of schedule. Now with him coming off he still will reap the benefits for about 2 to 4 more weeks before his body starts to return to normal levels. That being said, he should slow down his time table st and not push himself to be back until Sept when the Rosters expand to insure no more injuries.[/QUOTE


    Major league baseball does not test players for HGH, so it has to be a steriod. If he wanted to cheat, HGH makes the most sense to take since there is no test for it in MLB. However, if he wanted to pretty much ensure that he got caught, a steroid would be the way to go.

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    Re: Volquez to be suspended 50 games for PED use

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I think its a possible story but hes either a liar or an extremely stupid person. I'm talking beyond stupid that he doesnt understand that there is a major league drug testing policy and doesnt check to see if drugs he is on is on the banned list. So pick your poison? Is he this mentally challenged or is it possible that hes just using a common problem to cover up what he was trying to do?
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfm View Post
    Major league baseball does not test players for HGH, so it has to be a steriod. If he wanted to cheat, HGH makes the most sense to take since there is no test for it in MLB. However, if he wanted to pretty much ensure that he got caught, a steroid would be the way to go.
    There are way more PED's than just steroids and HGH. Ranging from Stimulants (like greenies, pep pills, whatever you wanna call them) to anabolic steroids to muscle relaxers. The press release has already stated he did not test positive for steroids, but another PED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    There are way more PED's than just steroids and HGH. Ranging from Stimulants (like greenies, pep pills, whatever you wanna call them) to anabolic steroids to muscle relaxers. The press release has already stated he did not test positive for steroids, but another PED.
    Yes, you are correct. My point was just that it was not HGH. If he was trying to gain some type of advanatage and not get detected this would be the way to go.

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    He screwed up, plain as that. As a MLB player, he has to KNOW at all times what he's putting into his body. But, I believe his explanation and don't think it was intentional. I'm going to give him a second chance. After that... all bets are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveWilly View Post
    He had a perfectly reasonable explanation from what I've read, but all I've seen in posts on this board are people just railing into him like he's McGuire or something. The poor guy's boys can't swim and he wants to have a kid, and that's all there is to it basically.
    No, he has no excuse, a "perfectly reasonable" excuse wouldnt warrant a 50 game suspension, if that was the case he would have seen a legit dr who would have handled it the right way. Take off the red glasses, if this came out about Pujols or ANYONE on another team we would be all over him, calling him cheater, etc. There is NO excuse for any pro ball player to get busted at this point after al lthe questionable excuses hav ebeen tossed around so long now. Check with a legit dr and alert the team first. Dont take chances on anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    Man, what did this guy ever do to you. Being on my team I would like to believe him that what he was taking was to treat an issue and help him have a child. And if it were the case, the major league drug testing list was probably not the #1 thing on his mind if him and his wife are trying to have a child. There are bigger things in life than baseball, and could it be the thought never crossed his mind that it would be seen as a PED. I am sure it boosts testosterone in some fashion which it is why it is on the list, but if you are getting it prescribed to treat that sort of condition you might just not even think it would be considered a performance enhancer. Sure it was a bit careless, but no reason to classify him as "extremely stupid" and "beyond stupid."

    And if it is the case he was lying, oh well he saves the Reds some cash and probably speeds up his recovery, might help was win another game or two.
    There arent bigger things when your making mega-millions playing a game ,you check to make sure you arent going to screw up your lifeline, esp if your planning a family. Not buying it, I thin kyour first line explained your thinking, "being on my team I would like ot beleieve him". If he wasnt on "your team" you would likely not be saying the same. Would be interesting to look back at our Pujols thread here and see how many are defending Vol but threw the witchunt there if they are not on "my team". He is on my team, thats why it bothers me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounty37h View Post
    There arent bigger things when your making mega-millions playing a game ,you check to make sure you arent going to screw up your lifeline, esp if your planning a family. Not buying it, I thin kyour first line explained your thinking, "being on my team I would like ot beleieve him". If he wasnt on "your team" you would likely not be saying the same. Would be interesting to look back at our Pujols thread here and see how many are defending Vol but threw the witchunt there if they are not on "my team". He is on my team, thats why it bothers me.
    We actually agree on something. Definitely unacceptable behavior and I'm not buying the excuse.


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