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Thread: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

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    Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    I fully admit that the title may be jumping the gun some...BUT...

    Of the starters...he's...

    #1 in ERA (lowest of course)
    #2 in IP
    #2 (tied) for hits allowed
    #3 (tied) for home runes allowed
    #3 (tied) for Ks
    #5 in walks

    Is this KID outpitching the rest of the staff? Yes, it's only been 3 starts, but he's gone up against the Cards, the Cubs and now the Dodgers, all of which have pretty good bats.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    He's got the most talent, in my estimation. Of course I guess that's an easy comment to make on my behalf since he was a top pick and jumped straight to the majors.

    I guess, though, I would (for the time being) take Arroyo before any of the Reds' starters if I had to pick someone to start game 7 of the series. Leake may be on the fast track to changing my opinion on that, though.
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Not even close, yet. Like you said, it is three starts. I can find a three game stretch by any of the other 4 that blow what Leake has done out of the water.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Not even close, yet. Like you said, it is three starts. I can find a three game stretch by any of the other 4 that blow what Leake has done out of the water.
    True, but, it's pretty rare for a rookie, much less one that skips the minors AND is a Reds pitcher.

    If it's not Leake, who is it then?

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    True, but, it's pretty rare for a rookie, much less one that skips the minors AND is a Reds pitcher.

    If it's not Leake, who is it then?
    Depends who you ask.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Depends who you ask.
    I'm asking you...since you made the claim that he's "not even close."
    Last edited by fearofpopvol1; 04-23-2010 at 01:42 AM.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I'm asking you...since you made the claim that he's "not even close."
    This team doesn't have an Ace. A lot of teams don't. As for the Reds best pitcher, I don't honestly know, but it isn't the guy with 3 starts under his belt.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    This team doesn't have an Ace. A lot of teams don't. As for the Reds best pitcher, I don't honestly know, but it isn't the guy with 3 starts under his belt.
    So it's Arroyo then?

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Not sure if he is the Ace yet, but I do like the new nickname Fay gave him...

    Cool Hand Leake

    I wonder how many egg he can eat?
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    THe things that matter little in baseball:

    Spring training
    today
    yesterday
    small sample sizes

    You don't base anything in baseball on small sample sizes.

    WHo's CIncy's best starter? Based on this year, Leake has the best stats.

    Based on last year, that is a tough one.

    Going forward? I have no idea.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Not sure if he is the Ace yet, but I do like the new nickname Fay gave him...

    Cool Hand Leake

    I wonder how many egg he can eat?
    Because he works faster, we can get the rest of the afternoon off!
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    He's the most reliable pitcher in the rotation right now. If I needed a win, I'd send him out there, then Arroyo. Certainly the tide will turn, but for now he is.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    He's got the most talent, in my estimation. Of course I guess that's an easy comment to make on my behalf since he was a top pick and jumped straight to the majors.

    I guess, though, I would (for the time being) take Arroyo before any of the Reds' starters if I had to pick someone to start game 7 of the series. Leake may be on the fast track to changing my opinion on that, though.
    Pitching talent? I would put Bailey and Cueto above him in pitching talent with Volquez the 3rd when he comes off of suspension/DL.

    He may have the most moxie and control. I think he can develop into a little better pitcher than Arroyo in his prime.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    No.
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Let's wait to see how well he pitches the second time around against major league hitting before we start naming him the ace. Obviously, he's got some talent, but players stick in the majors because they learn and adjust. If he can handle that, then I'll be impressed.
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