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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    He's the most reliable pitcher in the rotation right now. If I needed a win, I'd send him out there, then Arroyo. Certainly the tide will turn, but for now he is.
    I agree with you on this. Right now, he's the guy I'm more confident with on the mound.

    I got a chuckle out of something I heard on MLB Network last night. Setting up the Reds/Dodgers game recap, Hazel Mae called Harang the "ace" of the staff. He may be the #1 starter, but he is, in no way, the ace. You can't go 6-14 one year, start the next 0-4, and be called an "ace."

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    No

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    He's the most reliable pitcher in the rotation right now. If I needed a win, I'd send him out there, then Arroyo. Certainly the tide will turn, but for now he is.
    I think BCubb hit the crux of the question. If your life depended upon a win and you could name any starter in the rotation to go tonight to save your life, who do you pick. They may not be an "ace" in major league baseball, but that would define the "ace" of the Reds staff.

    Me, I'm still picking Arroyo, but Leake isn't too far off, which perhaps says more about the early performances of Harang, Cueto & Bailey

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    The only way to answer the question in the opening post: who cares?

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    No. If one must have an "ace" pitcher, that pitcher this season has been Arroyo.

    For me, so far this season, the starters rank thusly:

    Arroyo
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    I have to say, it's odd seeing this question the day after he gave up five runs in seven innings. That didn't exactly make me say ace right now.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    Let's wait to see how well he pitches the second time around against major league hitting before we start naming him the ace. Obviously, he's got some talent, but players stick in the majors because they learn and adjust. If he can handle that, then I'll be impressed.
    Well said. He's certainly impressed so far, but "so far" is a blip of a sample size.
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Not the ace, but he's on an island by himself of Reds' starting pitchers I look forward to watching take the mound at this point in time.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Reds' starters have recorded outs beyond the 6th inning on only five occasions this season. Arroyo vs. Cards, Harang vs. Cubs, and Leake in all three of his starts. FWIW.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    He's not the ace. He won't even be our best rookie on the staff when Chapman gets called up. Chapman is going to change things for us big time... we will be a force when he goes every 5th day. And it's a good problem to have a guy like Leake. WHile he's not the ace, he's definitely MLB ready. The Reds were right about this kid.
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    I have to say, it's odd seeing this question the day after he gave up five runs in seven innings. That didn't exactly make me say ace right now.
    Holding the Dodgers lineup to only five runs should be considered a quality start considering how many runs they put up in the first two games. Five seems like only three in this case.

    I agree that there's not really an ace right now but I continue to be very impressed by how nonplussed Mike Leake is about everything. He just does not get rattled on the mound and for a pitcher that's a very good thing. Jay said something in his interview last night that I agree with about Mike. He talked about how Mike was so young and inexperienced with about everything in the majors that he just doesn't know any better. He just goes out there, competes hard, and pitches his game like he did for his entire college career. The other guys all know what's at stake when they do or don't pitch well but Mike just goes out and does his thing without really understanding that yet. I kind of hope he never quite realizes the magnitude of what he's doing for this whole season, LOL
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    The only way to answer the question in the opening post: who cares?

    Since there are 25 responses to the original thread - including two of your own, it appears that several people care. You want to snark on the Reds pitching, that's fine but keep your comments about a thread to yourself.
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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    I'd say that Leake is the rookie starting ace of the Reds for the first 16 games.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Since there are 25 responses to the original thread - including two of your own, it appears that several people care. You want to snark on the Reds pitching, that's fine but keep your comments about a thread to yourself.
    I didn't mean it as an insult to the first poster at all. Perhaps I should have said to the question "Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?": How could you tell?

    That's the point I was attempting to convey. Affixing the term "ace" to one of the current starters is kind of an insult to the term.

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    Re: Is Mike Leake the ace of the rotation?

    There is no question he's been the best so far, game for game. Arroyo had probably the best game so far, but not consistent.

    So far this year,

    Leake
    Arroyo
    Cueto
    Bailey
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