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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    I wonder how Stubb's speed will affect his UZR? He seems to make tough plays look very easy. On many plays that probably aren't in most CF's zone, he is camping under, waiting to fall into his glove. Have to think that the guys who judge him, will miss a few.
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

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    So this is what a ho-hum, no drama win looks like? I think I like it!
    This is the Reds biggest scoring differential in a win right?
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    Glad they won tonight....Roy (Owns Us) Oswalt tommorow. If we can steal one from him, I think we can get to .500 before sweeping the Cards this weekend.
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    I wonder how Stubb's speed will affect his UZR? He seems to make tough plays look very easy. On many plays that probably aren't in most CF's zone, he is camping under, waiting to fall into his glove. Have to think that the guys who judge him, will miss a few.
    I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Quote Originally Posted by fugowitribe View Post
    Glad they won tonight....Roy (Owns Us) Oswalt tommorow. If we can steal one from him, I think we can get to .500 before sweeping the Cards this weekend.
    Paulino's tomorrow night versus Leake. Oswalt's matched up with Arroyo on thursday
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Roy pitches on Thursday. Paulino is tomorrow (according to Chris Welsh anyway).

    I was terrified to post here tonight for fear that I would jinx the guys but I'll happily post something now that they got the win, LOL Great job by the guys tonight and I hope this is the start of a great road trip for them. WOOT!
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    I hope this start gets Harang going in the right direction.

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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
    Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I did not know how it was done.
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    I wish we could play the Astros every day. *sigh*

    I guess Aaron has bought himself a few more starts...I hope he builds on this one.

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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    I'd love to see more games like this.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

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    Drew Stubbs 8
    Brandon Phillips 4
    Joey Votto 3
    Scott Rolen 5
    Jay Bruce 9
    Orlando Cabrera 6
    Jonny Gomes 7
    Ryan Hanigan 2
    Aaron Harang RHP

    A little different look. Believe it or not, Phillips did not hit second at all last year. The other thing to note: This is Hanigan’s eighth start. Ramon Hernandez has 12. Hanigan started the year playing only one out of five days.
    I got to hand it to Dusty, he found a lineup I like about the only thing you could try to change is Drew but who do you put there? Hopefully he gives it a few days use. Get Brandon to go back to using the alleys rather than trying to kill everything and get Stubbs timing down with more fastballs. And with Gomes struggling still I like Cabrera in front of him (neither ideal but Cabrera has taken advantage of RBI opportunities). We shall see what tomorrow brings but tonight to Dusty.

    My only question (not a complaint) why Cordero tonight when the tv guys said Rhodes was already warmed up?
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    nice win from the team & especially nice to see Harang pitch well. i thought Dusty was smart to remove him after 6 IP & ~100 pitches. he gets a win & a nice confidence boost.

    this was the type of game i thought we would see all season. good pitching. nice defense (except for yet another 'hit' past Cabrera) & the offense piecing together a few runs.

    this was for me the most enjoyable game i have watched all season.
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Liked the lineup.

    Liked the overall result even moreso.
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
    You're obviously correct that it's a matter of placing it in the correct zone, but I feel there is some subjectivity to that. With enough slices splitting the outfield, and gauging depth, I can see there being some tough calls as to which zone a catch is awarded to in some situations.

    Make no mistake, I think UZR is actually a pretty reliable tool with enough of a sample. But I wouldn't say there's no subjectivity to it.
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    Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

    I hope Dusty keeps Votto, Rolen and Bruce in the middle of the lineup.



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