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    2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    2011 Contract Issues: Cincinnati Reds

    By Tim Dierkes [May 3 at 4:38pm CST]
    The Reds face a slew of contractual options after the season:

    • Aaron Harang has a $12.75MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The option price increases by $250K if Harang reaches 210 innings. Plus, both the option price and buyout increase if he's traded. If Harang stays with the Reds through the season, they'll decline.
    • Bronson Arroyo has an $11MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The option can increase to $13MM based on innings pitched. I envision the Reds declining this as well, giving them flexibility to sign a veteran replacement.
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/0...nati-reds.html <--- (Click here for the rest)

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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    At this point, I'd guess they wave take all the buyouts/let 'em walk. There will be raises and arbitration a-comin' and some of the more glaring holes could be plugged with the remaining dosh.
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    I think we need at least one veteran on the staff that can be a 'leader'. Coco fills the role at worst.

    I do not think its a stretch to say both these gents are gone next season. If either/both begin to produce but we are out of contention I think both are dealt at the deadline. Both will clear waivers so it might not be til the August deadline.

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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    2 million to each of Harang and Arroyo plus a 5 million raise owed to BP. 9 million gone without improving the team a whit.

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    I think the only two big holes for next season, barring injuries/trades are LF and the 5th starter.

    Here the team next season as I see it:

    Hanigan
    Votto
    Phillips
    Rolen
    Cozart/Janish
    ??????
    Stubbs
    Bruce

    Leake
    Bailey
    Cueto
    Chapman
    ??????

    Cordero


    the rest should be filled in with minor leaguers or cheap vets.

    That $10M figure looks about right. I think it's very doable, but it really depends on whose available.
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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    2 million to each of Harang and Arroyo plus a 5 million raise owed to BP. 9 million gone without improving the team a whit.
    Unless you count the additional $20M the Reds will get in payflex from losing Harang and Arroyo.
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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    FA for the 2011 season can be found here.

    Anyone there that might be worth pursuing?

    I see both Corey Patterson and Willy Taveras are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    2 million to each of Harang and Arroyo plus a 5 million raise owed to BP. 9 million gone without improving the team a whit.
    Can't wait for these contract gaffes to be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Unless you count the additional $20M the Reds will get in payflex from losing Harang and Arroyo.

    By the time you give out the raises, that payflex is going to look a lot smaller than it does at first.

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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    By the time you give out the raises, that payflex is going to look a lot smaller than it does at first.
    To say the least. Payroll ain't going up anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    To say the least. Payroll ain't going up anytime soon.
    No real payroll sanity until the next year when BP and CoCo come off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    To say the least. Payroll ain't going up anytime soon.
    But even with the raises, the Reds should have at least $10M to spend if the payroll stays the same. That's a lot in this market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Leake
    Bailey
    Cueto
    Chapman
    ??????
    Volquez? I still think the Reds need to have a veteran pitcher in the staff. This projection looks optimistic and accounts for everything going right.

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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    I think the only two big holes for next season, barring injuries/trades are LF and the 5th starter.

    Here the team next season as I see it:

    Hanigan
    Votto
    Phillips
    Rolen
    Cozart/Janish
    ??????
    Stubbs
    Bruce

    Leake
    Bailey
    Cueto
    Chapman
    ??????

    Cordero


    the rest should be filled in with minor leaguers or cheap vets.

    That $10M figure looks about right. I think it's very doable, but it really depends on whose available.
    Vasquez.

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    Re: 2011 Contract Issues...MLB Trade Rumors...

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Vasquez.
    Interesting.

    While he is getting pulverized in the AL East this year, he may be a great candidate to buy low on this offseason with a short-term, incentive-laden deal.

    Worst case scenario, he doesn't get much better than he is now, but still is good enough to hold down the #4 starter role while tutoring all of the young pitchers (especially Cueto, Volquez, and Chapman.)

    Best case scenario, he returns to last season's form and is the Ace of the staff, with Leake, Chapman, Bailey/Cueto, and Volquez/Wood filling out the staff.

    If Vasquez regains his 2009 form before this season ends and will therefore be too expensive in the offseason, pick up Arroyo's option and give him one more year on the staff to be the stabilizing veteran.
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