...highlights folly of keeping win/loss stats
According to this article. Excerpt:
Discuss!After six starts, Greinke is 0-3. He's on pace to finish with 214 strikeouts, an 0.98 WHIP, an ERA of 2.27 ... and a record of 0-19.
...highlights folly of keeping win/loss stats
According to this article. Excerpt:
Discuss!After six starts, Greinke is 0-3. He's on pace to finish with 214 strikeouts, an 0.98 WHIP, an ERA of 2.27 ... and a record of 0-19.
I don't think its folly to keep those stats, but I do think its folly to judge a pitcher solely on those stats.Originally Posted by nate
However it is astounding to see those number projections.
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
“Everything that happens before Death is what counts.”
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Offer the Royals Micah Owings for him. He's on pace to be 13-0.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
He should be throwing shut outs.
Slacker who doesn't know how to win.
Go Gators!
Let me quibble with the article I posted. This bit in particular:
See, I don't agree with "pitching taking up a large portion of defense's share." Once pitches are put in play, they're the defense's responsibility. I don't think, on average, a starting pitcher is responsible for getting the majority of hitters he faces out. I would say that the majority of outs are the responsibility of the defense. True, great pitchers probably strike out around half of the batters they face but even then, does that mean they're responsible for the majority of run prevention?Baseball is 50 percent hitting and 50 percent defense, with pitching taking up a large portion of defense's share. I don't know how much. Even if it's 49.9 percent, it should tell you that no one person deserves a "W" or an "L" hung on their record. Maybe a manager. Again, beside the point.
Bad pitchers let up more hits than good pitchers. And it has less to do with defense than it does with them not being very good.
I think that is his point.
Maybe KC will trade him for prospects to NYY/PHI/LAD/LAA/BOS after the ASB?
/r/reds
Greinke, and not Verlander, should have won the Cy Young award. i was very vocal about that, but can't remember if i was doing that here or not.
but one of these two play in a market that has 916,952 people (in proper), and the other plays in a market that has 450,375 people (in proper).Code:Pitcher W-L ERA IP H HR BB K WHIP SLG OBA AVG Greinke 16-8 2.16 229.1 195 11 51 242 1.07 336 276 230 Verlander 19-9 3.45 240 219 20 63 269 1.18 369 295 243
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I honestly don't remember much of a campaign for Verlander, there wasn't even that much of one for Felix. To be fair, almost everyone, including the voters, got it right for once.
"Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons
Goes to show how bad the Royals are.
But Greinke did win the AL Cy Young! Along with Lincecum's victory, I actually thought the awards went to the right two pitchers last year.
“Every level he goes to, he is going to compete. They will know who he is at every level he goes to.” -- ED on EDLC
Half?
That would mean that truly great pitchers would be getting about 2 K's per inning.
True, so it's even fewer batters that pitchers retire on their own.
Jocketty should offer Rosales and Stewart for Greinke. Maybe Moore would bite? For sweetner, Jocketty could offer up Hamilton.
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