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    Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Robin Roberts died today at 83 years young. He was one of greatest Phillie pitchers ever and one of the best in the NL during the 1950's.

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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Interesting that Roberts gave up more HR's (505) than any pitcher in baseball history.
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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.



    Robin Roberts coached Chris Welsh when both were at South Florida; I am sure Chris will have plenty of Roberts stories in his upcoming broadcasts, he has always spoken very highly of Robin Roberts in the past.


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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Does this mean that we might be losing someone else since things like this always seem to happen in 3s? Harwell.. Roberts.. ???...

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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

    I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

    Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.

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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Borkowski View Post
    Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

    I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

    Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.
    Yeah. A lot of those HRs were solo shots.
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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Borkowski View Post
    Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

    I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

    Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.
    56 years ago next week, good memory, now I don't feel so odd with my own memories of games from 38-40 years ago.

    Code:
    Philadelphia Phillies 8, Cincinnati Reds 1
    
    Day
    Game Played on Thursday, May 13, 1954 (N) at Connie Mack Stadium
    
    CIN N    1  0  0    0  0  0    0  0  0  -   1  1  3
    PHI N    0  2  1    0  5  0    0  0  x  -   8 11  0
    BATTING
    Cincinnati Reds              AB   R   H RBI      BB  SO      PO   A
    Adams 3b                      4   1   1   1       0   1       2   2
    McMillan ss                   3   0   0   0       0   1       1   4
    Bell cf                       3   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
    Kluszewski 1b                 3   0   0   0       0   2      12   1
    Greengrass lf                 3   0   0   0       0   0       2   1
    Temple 2b                     3   0   0   0       0   0       3   6
    Post rf                       3   0   0   0       0   1       1   1
    Bailey c                      3   0   0   0       0   2       2   0
    Valentine p                   1   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Podbielan p                 0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Escalera ph                 1   0   0   0       0   1       0   0
      Savransky p                 0   0   0   0       0   0       1   1
      Merriman ph                 1   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
    Totals                       28   1   1   1       0   8      24  16
    FIELDING - 
    DP: 2. McMillan-Temple-Kluszewski, Adams-Temple-Kluszewski.
    E: McMillan (6), Temple (7), Post (3).
    BATTING - 
    HR: Adams (1,1st inning off Roberts 0 on 0 out).
    Team LOB: 0.
    Philadelphia Phillies        AB   R   H RBI      BB  SO      PO   A
    Jones 3b                      5   0   1   0       0   0       0   0
    Ashburn cf                    3   2   1   0       2   0       1   0
    Torgeson 1b                   5   1   2   1       0   0       7   0
    Ennis lf                      4   1   1   1       0   0       2   0
    Hamner 2b                     4   1   3   1       0   0       2   2
    Wyrostek rf                   2   2   0   0       2   0       3   0
    Burgess c                     4   1   1   1       0   0       9   0
    Morgan ss                     4   0   1   1       0   0       3   4
    Roberts p                     3   0   1   1       0   0       0   0
    Totals                       34   8  11   6       4   0      27   6
    BATTING - 
    3B: Torgeson (1,off Valentine).
    SH: Roberts (2,off Savransky).
    Team LOB: 7.
    BASERUNNING - 
    SB: Hamner (1,2nd base off Valentine/Bailey).
    PITCHING
    Cincinnati Reds              IP     H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR BFP
    Valentine L(3-3)              4     9   6   6   3   0   0  22
    Podbielan                     1     1   2   0   1   0   0   5
    Savransky                     3     1   0   0   0   0   0  12
    Totals                        8    11   8   6   4   0   0  39
    Valentine faced 3 batters in the 5th inning
    Philadelphia Phillies        IP     H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR BFP
    Roberts W(4-3)                9     1   1   1   0   8   1  28
    Umpires: HP - Bill Jackowski, 1B - Jocko Conlan, 2B - Artie Gore, 3B - Frank Secory
    Time of Game: 2:59   Attendance: 6856
    Starting Lineups:
    
       Cincinnati Reds               Philadelphia Phillies    
    1. Adams               3b        Jones               3b
    2. McMillan            ss        Ashburn             cf
    3. Bell                cf        Torgeson            1b
    4. Kluszewski          1b        Ennis               lf
    5. Greengrass          lf        Hamner              2b
    6. Temple              2b        Wyrostek            rf
    7. Post                rf        Burgess             c
    8. Bailey              c         Morgan              ss
    9. Valentine           p         Roberts             p
    
    REDS 1ST: Adams homered; McMillan popped to catcher in foul
    territory; Bell grounded out (second to first); Kluszewski flied
    out to right; 1 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 0.
    
    PHILLIES 1ST: Jones grounded out (shortstop to first); Ashburn
    walked; Torgeson grounded out (first unassisted) [Ashburn to
    second]; Ennis lined to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Reds
    1, Phillies 0.
    
    REDS 2ND: Greengrass made an out to shortstop; Temple made an
    out to second; Post struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1,
    Phillies 0.
    
    PHILLIES 2ND: Hamner singled to left; Wyrostek walked [Hamner to
    second]; Burgess singled to right [Hamner out at home (right to
    shortstop to third to catcher), Wyrostek to third, Burgess to
    second (on throw)]; Morgan singled to left [Wyrostek scored,
    Burgess to third]; Roberts grounded out (second to first)
    [Burgess scored, Morgan to second]; Jones popped to first in
    foul territory; 2 R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 2.
    
    REDS 3RD: Bailey struck out; Valentine made an out to second;
    Adams was called out on strikes; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1,
    Phillies 2.
    
    PHILLIES 3RD: Ashburn singled to second; Torgeson singled to
    right [Ashburn to second]; Ennis grounded into a double play
    (shortstop to second to first) [Ashburn to third, Torgeson out
    at second]; On a bunt Hamner singled to second [Ashburn scored];
    Hamner stole second; Wyrostek grounded out (second to first); 1
    R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 3.
    
    REDS 4TH: McMillan lined to shortstop; Bell flied out to left;
    Kluszewski struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 3.
    
    PHILLIES 4TH: Burgess popped to third in foul territory; Morgan
    popped to third in foul territory; Roberts singled to center;
    Jones flied out to left; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies
    3.
    
    REDS 5TH: Greengrass popped to first in foul territory; Temple
    grounded out (shortstop to first); Post grounded out (shortstop
    to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 3.
    
    PHILLIES 5TH: Ashburn walked; Torgeson tripled to left [Ashburn
    scored]; Ennis singled to center [Torgeson scored]; PODBIELAN
    REPLACED VALENTINE (PITCHING); Hamner singled to right [Ennis to
    third (error by Post)]; Wyrostek walked [Hamner to second];
    Burgess reached on an error by Temple [Ennis scored, Hamner
    scored (unearned) (no RBI), Wyrostek to third]; Morgan grounded
    into a double play (third to second to first) [Wyrostek scored
    (unearned) (no RBI), Burgess out at second]; Roberts grounded
    out (second to first); 5 R (3 ER), 3 H, 2 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1,
    Phillies 8.
    
    REDS 6TH: Bailey struck out; ESCALERA BATTED FOR PODBIELAN;
    Escalera struck out; Adams flied out to right; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0
    LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    PHILLIES 6TH: SAVRANSKY REPLACED ESCALERA (PITCHING); Jones
    singled to third; Ashburn forced Jones (left to shortstop to
    second); Torgeson flied out to right; Ennis popped to first in
    foul territory; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    REDS 7TH: McMillan struck out; Bell flied out to left;
    Kluszewski struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    PHILLIES 7TH: Hamner flied out to left; Wyrostek grounded out
    (first unassisted); Burgess grounded out (first to pitcher); 0
    R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    REDS 8TH: Greengrass grounded out (shortstop to first); Temple
    flied out to right; Post made an out to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0
    E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    PHILLIES 8TH: Morgan reached on an error by McMillan; Roberts
    reached on a fielder's choice on a sacrifice bunt [Morgan to
    second]; Jones popped to catcher in foul territory; Ashburn
    grounded out (pitcher to first) [Morgan to third, Roberts to
    second]; Torgeson grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 0 H, 1 E,
    2 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    REDS 9TH: Bailey grounded out (second to first); MERRIMAN BATTED
    FOR SAVRANSKY; Merriman flied out to center; Adams grounded out
    (shortstop to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Reds 1, Phillies 8.
    
    Final Totals      R   H   E  LOB
     Reds             1   1   3    0
     Phillies         8  11   0    7

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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    Workhorse of the 50's an era plagued by small parks and station to station baseball.



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    YEAR TEAM         AGE W   L   PCT   G    GS  CG  SV  GF  IP     H    R    ER   BB   SO    ERA  RSAA
    1948 Phillies     21   7   9  .438   20  20   9   0   0  147    148   63   52   61   84   3.18    9 
    1949 Phillies     22  15  15  .500   43  31  11   4   9  227    229  101   93   75   95   3.69    8 
    1950 Phillies     23  20  11  .645   40  39  21   1   1  304    282  112  102   77  146   3.02   29 
    1951 Phillies     24  21  15  .583   44  39  22   2   4  315    284  115  106   64  127   3.03   26 
    1952 Phillies     25  28   7  .800   39  37  30   2   2  330    292  104   95   45  148   2.59   40 
    1953 Phillies     26  23  16  .590   44  41  33   2   2  347    324  119  106   61  198   2.75   53 
    1954 Phillies     27  23  15  .605   45  38  29   4   6  337    289  116  111   56  185   2.96   36 
    1955 Phillies     28  23  14  .622   41  38  26   3   3  305    292  137  111   53  160   3.28   28 
    1956 Phillies     29  19  18  .514   43  37  22   3   6  297    328  155  147   40  157   4.45  -27 
    1957 Phillies     30  10  22  .313   39  32  14   2   5  250    246  122  113   43  128   4.07   -9 
    1958 Phillies     31  17  14  .548   35  34  21   0   0  270    270  112   97   51  130   3.23   22 
    1959 Phillies     32  15  17  .469   35  35  19   0   0  257    267  137  122   35  137   4.27   -8 
    1960 Phillies     33  12  16  .429   35  33  13   1   2  237    256  113  106   34  122   4.03    2 
    1961 Phillies     34   1  10  .091   26  18   2   0   3  117    154   85   76   23   54   5.85  -25 
    1962 Orioles      35  10   9  .526   27  25   6   0   1  191    176   63   59   41  102   2.78   20 
    1963 Orioles      36  14  13  .519   35  35   9   0   0  251    230  100   93   40  124   3.33    0 
    1964 Orioles      37  13   7  .650   31  31   8   0   0  204    203   69   66   52  109   2.91   19 
    1965 Orioles      38   5   7  .417   20  15   5   0   2  115    110   51   43   20   63   3.37    1 
         Astros       38   5   2  .714   10  10   3   0   0   76     61   22   16   10   34   1.89   11 
         TOTALS           10   9  .526   30  25   8   0   2  191    171   73   59   30   97   2.78   12 
    1966 Astros       39   3   5  .375   13  12   1   1   1   63.2   79   31   27   10   26   3.82   -2 
         Cubs         39   2   3  .400   11   9   1   0   2   48.1   62   35   33   11   28   6.14  -13 
         TOTALS            5   8  .385   24  21   2   1   3  112    141   66   60   21   54   4.82  -15 
         TOTALS          286 245  .539  676 609 305  25  49 4689   4582 1962 1774  902 2357   3.40  220 
         LG AVERAGE      261 261  .500          187  10     4689   4615 2303 2038 1754 2477   3.91    0 
    
    YEAR TEAM          HR  H/9   BR/9  SO/9  BB/9  SO/BB SHO WP  IBB HBP BFP   BK  NW  NL
    1948 Phillies      10  9.06 13.04  5.14  3.73  1.38   0   1   0   4   604  0   9   7 
    1949 Phillies      15  9.08 12.25  3.77  2.97  1.27   3   1   0   5   933  0  16  14 
    1950 Phillies      29  8.35 10.69  4.32  2.28  1.90   5   2   0   2  1228  0  19  12 
    1951 Phillies      20  8.11 10.03  3.63  1.83  1.98   6   4   0   3  1274  0  22  14 
    1952 Phillies      22  7.96  9.33  4.04  1.23  3.29   3   3   0   5  1310  0  23  12 
    1953 Phillies      30  8.40 10.04  5.14  1.58  3.25   5   3   0   2  1412  0  26  13 
    1954 Phillies      35  7.72  9.35  4.94  1.50  3.30   4   2   0   5  1331  0  24  14 
    1955 Phillies      41  8.62 10.24  4.72  1.56  3.02   1   3   3   2  1256  0  22  15 
    1956 Phillies      46  9.94 11.21  4.76  1.21  3.93   1   2   3   2  1228  0  15  22 
    1957 Phillies      40  8.86 10.44  4.61  1.55  2.98   2   0  16   1  1033  0  15  17 
    1958 Phillies      30  9.00 10.77  4.33  1.70  2.55   1   2   5   2  1116  0  18  13 
    1959 Phillies      34  9.35 10.75  4.80  1.23  3.91   2   1   4   5  1075  2  15  17 
    1960 Phillies      31  9.72 11.09  4.63  1.29  3.59   2   0   7   2   982  0  14  14 
    1961 Phillies      19 11.85 13.77  4.15  1.77  2.35   0   1   6   2   512  0   4   7 
    1962 Orioles       17  8.29 10.41  4.81  1.93  2.49   0   2   7   4   774  0  12   7 
    1963 Orioles       35  8.25  9.79  4.45  1.43  3.10   2   0   8   3  1014  0  14  13 
    1964 Orioles       18  8.96 11.38  4.81  2.29  2.10   4   2   6   3   846  1  12   8 
    1965 Orioles       17  8.61 10.25  4.93  1.57  3.15   1   1   3   1   469  0   6   6 
         Astros         1  7.22  8.41  4.03  1.18  3.40   2   1   1   0   293  0   5   2 
         TOTALS        18  8.06  9.52  4.57  1.41  3.23   3   2   4   1   762  0  11   8 
    1966 Astros         7 11.17 12.72  3.68  1.41  2.60   1   0   0   1   274  0   4   4 
         Cubs           8 11.54 13.59  5.21  2.05  2.55   0   2   0   0   210  0   1   4 
         TOTALS        15 11.33 13.10  4.34  1.69  2.57   1   2   0   1   484  0   5   8 
         TOTALS       505  8.79 10.63  4.52  1.73  2.61  45  33  69  54 19174  3 296 235 
         LG AVERAGE   470  8.86 12.41  4.75  3.37  1.41  32 111  99  98 20072 12 
    
    
    CAREER
    1949-1960
    
    BASERUNNERS/9 IP displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    ERA displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    HOMERUNS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    RSAA displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    
    INNINGS PITCHED                 IP     BR/9 IP     ERA      HR      RSAA    
    1    Robin Roberts            3476      10.43     3.39      -23      200   
    2    Warren Spahn             3393      10.75     2.98       66      245   
    3    Early Wynn               2966      11.73     3.34        9      149   
    4    Billy Pierce             2750      11.37     3.15       13      230   
    5    Bob Lemon                2294      12.19     3.30       24      133   
    6    Bob Rush                 2276      11.70     3.63       59       84   
    7    Bob Friend               2252      12.00     3.77       37       34   
    8    Ned Garver               2250      12.16     3.74       -8      104   
    9    Mike Garcia              2155      11.94     3.25       55      133   
    10   Don Newcombe             2154.2    10.95     3.56      -34      132

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    Re: Robin Roberts R.I.P.

    R.I.P. Robin Roberts.

    We have lost so many of the great players from the era of black and white TV.... and my childhood.

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    R.I.P. Robin Roberts

    Work horse indeed. Look at his innings pitched, games started, and complete games, especially from about '49 to '59. That will contribute to HR's as well. Amazing.

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