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    Re: The Lebron saga

    The Heat have only missed the playoffs once since that championship season.

    I don't think anyone is putting Wade on a pedestal. People are just saying that it will still be Wade's team. That's all.

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    Yea same feeling here.

    It was said that the 3 played well together in the Olympics. But I see a big difference there, it was the Olympics. It was more of a good will, fun trip to an exotic land in which they played. They were far superior than their opponents and were pretty much loved outside of the game they played against the home country of China.

    In the NBA it will be an 82 game grind where outside of Miami they will be hated. LeBron and Wade won't ever have experienced the degree of angst against them. LeBron will be going through a fall from grace and Wade who is pretty much liked by everyone (I have liked him ever since his performance against UK in the final 4) will be lumped in with LBJ.

    What happens when the Heat lose? What happens when the play is drawn up for Wade and LBJ misses a game winning shot? What happens if they go down in a playoff series? What happens if they go down 2 games in a series? How will these two massive ego's plus Bosh mesh with the going gets tough?
    a. you're making psychological hypotheses based on no real facts

    b. he did not play UK in the Final Four
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    a. you're making psychological hypotheses based on no real facts

    b. he did not play UK in the Final Four
    a. Basically asking questions. Anything wrong with that.
    b. Sorry the game to get to the Final Four. Probably the greatest performance in college basketball I have ever seen.

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    Nope, nothing wrong with asking questions. I'm just saying that one could easily make the opposite argument about how they will 'gel' together with the known facts. The biggest piece of evidence as to whether or not they will play well together, either positive or negative, is their time spent on the Olympic team together. The weight of the evidence, at this point, would support a hypothesis of them actually playing well together. Obviously, things could work out differently.

    Yes, it was a great performance by D. Wade. UK not having Keith Bogans available to put on him put them at a huge disadvantage heading into that game and Wade took full advantage.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    One point that I think no one has really brought up. This Heat team is alot closer to one of the old school NBA powers with multiple stars. Ever since Free Agency/Expansion took over, we have seen the talent in the NBA spread very thinly. This Heat team is much more reminiscent of the old style NBA, where the talent was more heavily concentrated in one team.
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    A couple of things in the aftermath:

    - The MLB players union would not be enthused by its members taking less money than market value. Now Chris Paul is alledgedly trying to convince Carmelo Anthony to go to NY w/him at some point to create another "big-3"

    - According to ESPN Radio this a.m., there have been 8 different NBA champions since 1980. (Sixers, Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs, Heat, Rockets, Pistons). You only have to go back to 2001, and 2000 to get eight different champions in MLB and NFL, respectively.
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    Re: The Lebron saga

    I've already got the idea of the Cavs being good out of my head.They were bad so long it's pretty easy to go back to.

    As fa as Lebron goes.He probably should have kept Cleveland in the loop a bit more then he did but oh well.One thing people don't talk about much is that when one of these high profile athletes start to decline or has a major injury the same teams that feel so betrayed buy them leaving usually aren't going to go out of their way to keep them around when it's no longer in their best interest.Running an NBA franchise isn't charity work but neither is being a player.These guys have every right to do what they want and when fans and members of teams lash out it's usually jealousy or anger that causes it to happen instead of reasonable thoughts.
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    This was in the works since LeBron and Wade signed their last contracts. Anyone that doesn't believe that just wasn't paying attention at the time.

    I am not a Cavs fan, heck I'm not even a fan of the NBA, but what LeBron did was wrong. It's not that he wanted to go play with his buddy, but that he pretended that there was a chance that he would stay in Cleveland.

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    Re: The Lebron saga

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    The Heat have only missed the playoffs once since that championship season.

    I don't think anyone is putting Wade on a pedestal. People are just saying that it will still be Wade's team. That's all.
    And yet won 0 playoff series in that time. 0-3 in the 1st round.

    But Wade's a "winner" and LeBron is not.

    Without O'Neal, Wade's Heat have won 1 playoff series.
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    And yet won 0 playoff series in that time. 0-3 in the 1st round.

    But Wade's a "winner" and LeBron is not.

    Without O'Neal, Wade's Heat have won 1 playoff series.
    You are completely misunderstand the point.

    No matter what LeBron does, it will still be Wade's team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    And yet won 0 playoff series in that time. 0-3 in the 1st round.

    But Wade's a "winner" and LeBron is not.

    Without O'Neal, Wade's Heat have won 1 playoff series.
    My post was really in response to the claim that Wade has "been on some pretty bad Heat teams since the championship". The Heat have only been "pretty bad" once since the 2006 championship season. It was 2007-2008 when Wade missed 31 games (the injury bug comment is true). I agree he's not MJ but he's never been a slug either.

    The main point I see being made that somehow keeps getting glossed over is that the Heat will still be Dwyane Wade's team, even with King James on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    You are completely misunderstand the point.

    No matter what LeBron does, it will still be Wade's team.

    What if LeBron hits four straight game winners in the Finals and Wade was hurt? Would it really be Wade's team then?
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    Obviously, you can't say whose team it is, and ultimately, it doesn't matter at all.

    Whose team was LA during the 80's-- Magic or Kareem?

    Was Philly Dr. J's or Malone's?
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    Re: The Lebron saga

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Obviously, you can't say whose team it is, and ultimately, it doesn't matter at all.
    It clearly matters to some folks. Otherwise the topic wouldn't be getting discussed in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Obviously, you can't say whose team it is, and ultimately, it doesn't matter at all.

    Whose team was LA during the 80's-- Magic or Kareem?

    Was Philly Dr. J's or Malone's?
    Kareem was the glass and Magic was the straw that stirred the drink. One didnt win a title before the other and Kareem was into his 30s before Magic even went pro.


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