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    Commissioner Selig: "As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night's game should have ended differently.

    "While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed..."

    "Given last night's call & other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system...use of instant replay & all other related features."

    "Before I announce any decisions, I will consult with all...parties, including our 2 unions & the Special Committee for On-Field Matters"

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    I can't believe it but I think Selig nailed this one. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the taste. We'll see what changes result, if any.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releas...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

    Because it's simply a press release, I hope the mods don't mind if I post it in its entirety.

    "First, on behalf of Major League Baseball, I congratulate Armando Galarraga on a remarkable pitching performance. All of us who love the game appreciate the historic nature of his effort last night.

    "The dignity and class of the entire Detroit Tigers organization under such circumstances were truly admirable and embodied good sportsmanship of the highest order. Armando and Detroit manager Jim Leyland are to be commended for their handling of a very difficult situation. I also applaud the courage of umpire Jim Joyce to address this unfortunate situation honestly and directly. Jim's candor illustrates why he has earned the respect of on-field personnel throughout his accomplished career in the Major Leagues since 1989.

    "As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night's game should have ended differently. While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed. Given last night's call and other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and all other related features. Before I announce any decisions, I will consult with all appropriate parties, including our two unions and the Special Committee for On-Field Matters, which consists of field managers, general managers, club owners and presidents."
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    Donald accepts reality: He was out

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    DETROIT -- It took Jason Donald a couple of hours Wednesday night to see what the rest of the baseball world already knew.

    "Yeah," Donald said Thursday morning, "I was out."

    Donald suspected as much all along, of course. But he had trouble admitting it in the aftermath of the Indians' 3-0 loss to the Tigers and the blown call at first base that gave him the infield single that broke up Armando Galarraga's bid for perfection with two out in the ninth inning.
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    Bud has never been know for his speedy decisions. I don't think we'll see one here. Like, this season.

    I think this one will disappear in a cloud of obfuscation and spud-blather and "it is still under review" and "part of a bigger problem". His way of "solving" problems is to string them along endlessly and let them bleed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Bud has never been know for his speedy decisions. I don't think we'll see one here. Like, this season.

    I think this one will disappear in a cloud of obfuscation and spud-blather and "it is still under review" and "part of a bigger problem". His way of "solving" problems is to string them along endlessly and let them bleed off.
    You're kidding. Why I expect 'ol Bud to complete his review of the Pete Rose issue any day now and to issue a definitive opinion.
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    Although I don't see in that statement where Selig said this, the major media outlets are telling me that statement says that Bud will not overturn the original call Joyce made on the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Bud has never been know for his speedy decisions. I don't think we'll see one here. Like, this season.
    I agree. This hot potato will cool off and languish in Bud's drawer full of issues that he's leaving for the next commissioner to handle. Adding instant replay runs too counter to front-burner, TV-driven efforts at speeding up play. Speeding up play makes the game more desirable to broadcasters. Instant replay mostly just complicates the game's relationship with the media.
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    How big would the asterisk have to be if by some chance, they did eventually decide to change the call?? AFAIK such a move would be unprecedented in the history of the game. The ump blew it. It sucks, and he apologized. But, if you credit the pitcher with a perfect game after the fact, I think you are asking for trouble on the next controversial issue. Hey while they're at it, maybe MLB would go back 25 years and reverse Deckinger's call too?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Also noted that Damon was out and it cost his pitcher 2 runs... overturn the call and you're in a Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby territory.

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    Selig will not reverse the call: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5248118

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    Don Denkinger's call in game six of the 1985 World Series is not as "clean" as last night's blown call by Joyce. With Kansas City behind by one run in the ninth inning, Denkinger missed a call at first base, calling Jorge Orta safe. However, Orta was the leadoff hitter. Instead of having one out and nobody on, the Royals had a man on and no outs. Unquestionably the call by Denkinger improved K.C.'s chances of winning the game, but it does not follow that, without question, St. Louis would have won game six but for the call. Plenty of teams have failed to hold a one run lead with one out in the ninth inning. I can't think of any team that failed to hold a lead with three outs in the ninth inning, and that was what the situation should have been last night, but for Joyce's blown call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I can't say that I am surprised.
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5246454

    Joyce and Galarraga met at home plate Thursday afternoon as the pitcher presented the umpire with the Tigers' lineup card. Joyce shook hands with Galarraga and clapped him on the shoulder.
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    I wonder how much money a perfect game can mean to a player? It's a feat that you can make money off of long after you are retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    I wonder how much money a perfect game can mean to a player? It's a feat that you can make money off of long after you are retired.
    Probably not much, maybe he can sit in the lobby of a casino and sign scraps of paper for a couple of weeks but it's hardly a marketable skillset.


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