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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    At the ballgame...

    Time for Harang to go. He's part of the old Reds losing ways...just don't think he knows how to be part of a winning team.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by GoReds View Post
    At the ballgame...

    Time for Harang to go. He's part of the old Reds losing ways...just don't think he knows how to be part of a winning team.
    Wow, I thought I was being harsh. Can't release him with what he's getting paid, and he's still probably the best option the team has as the No. 5 starter, but there is no question he is the weak link of the rotation. I'm not sure a guy like Matt Maloney would be any better though. Heck, couldn't be much worse though. (I'm talking Harang of 2009-10.)

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by GoReds View Post
    At the ballgame...

    Time for Harang to go. He's part of the old Reds losing ways...just don't think he knows how to be part of a winning team.

    Aw c'mon, he's not TRYING to lose. Right now, I'd say he's a servicable 5th starter...I think he can improve a little on that. I think he goes in a trading deadline deal for sure, but I'd like to see him get SOME return. But yeah, he definitely shouldn't be in our ong range plans. We can't afford to pay #2 pitcher rates for our 5th starter.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    I don't think he's saying Harang is trying to lose, just that he's a loser. Not sure I completely agree with that, but I think that's the gist of what he's saying.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    So is he saying Harang would be good if on the Pirates?

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    Harang with a K!! Livan threw him three straight strikes. Pay attention Aaron! That's how you pitch to the opposing pitcher.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    I don't think Harang is a loser personally, but he lokks totally intimidated by the Nats lineup. 81 pitches in three innings - the bottom of the lineup is hitting under 230 and they own Harang. He is pitching scared. I don't know how else to describe it.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Time for the bats to wake up...

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Balk on Hernandez moves Cabrera to 2nd.

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    Harang is clearly no longer the stud he was, but he's getting killed with bloops and weak grounders yet again. Sure, he's a had a few balls stung, but I can think of at least 3 hits that were weak contact.

    When you have to face that many batters, your pitch count is going to be up there. By my count, he's used 98 pitches on 25 batters. That's 3.9 P/PA -- not ideal, but not exactly horrible or evidence that he's avoiding guys.

    And of course, his slider hasn't been right all year -- as that wild pitch showed.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Rain drops...
    Last edited by GoReds; 06-04-2010 at 08:50 PM.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Phillips singles in a run. Tie game 2-2.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Just another horrbile call. Joey is not happy.
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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    Just another horrbile call. Joey is not happy.
    Yeah, that was waaaaaay inside IMO.

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    Re: 6-4-10 Reds @ Nationals

    Votto grounds into a 4-6-3 DP.


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