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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?

    Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?

    Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?
    No, he lost that privilege quite some time ago.

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    No, he lost that privilege quite some time ago.
    Once guilty, always guilty?

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?

    Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?
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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?

    Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?
    No. Not really.

    IF you read the article, you have to come to the conclusion that either one of the owners of the bat has inserted the cork OR that Rose used the bat in a game situation.

    It's really tough to believe that one of the owners of the bat would take what they believe to be a very expensive bit of baseball memorabilia and start cutting on it.

    It's much easier to say Rose was at least occasionally using corked bats at the end of his career. Does anybody think that would be out of character?

    What I don't get is the "holier than thou" attitude being applied. Baseball has a long history of players bending the rules in order to take every advantage they could. That's not just Pete, that's everybody.
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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    No. Not really.

    IF you read the article, you have to come to the conclusion that either one of the owners of the bat has inserted the cork OR that Rose used the bat in a game situation.

    It's really tough to believe that one of the owners of the bat would take what they believe to be a very expensive bit of baseball memorabilia and start cutting on it.

    It's much easier to say Rose was at least occasionally using corked bats at the end of his career. Does anybody think that would be out of character?

    What I don't get is the "holier than thou" attitude being applied. Baseball has a long history of players bending the rules in order to take every advantage they could. That's not just Pete, that's everybody.
    From Deadspin

    Bill Schubert's bat was authenticated by Sports Investments, which had received it directly from Pete Rose, so the chain of custody was as pristine as it gets. Still, there was no way to prove it had actually been used in a regular-season game, rather than, say, in batting practice or spring training.

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    I would think it would be quite easy to tell if the cork was added later. Seems to me it would have to be re-painted and it would be very difficult to match the old paint

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Once guilty, always guilty?
    You asked if he deserved the benefit of doubt, I said he didn't, as far as guilt I don't really care, and as dfs noted, getting an edge in baseball is as american as apple pie and chevrolet's.

    I'm not shocked whether it's true or BS.

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    It's really tough to believe that one of the owners of the bat would take what they believe to be a very expensive bit of baseball memorabilia and start cutting on it.
    Except that the Deadspin article says that the value of the bat, if corked, is more than 20X higher corked than not corked.

    A game-used PR4192 bat could go for $5,000 or more. But a proven corked bat is unique; no one has any idea how high the bidding could go. Certainly six figures.
    Would an owner of this bat want to increase the value from $5,000 to more than $100,000? Nah, that wouldn't be enough to make anyone fake a corked bat, would it?
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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Would an owner of this bat want to increase the value from $5,000 to more than $100,000? Nah, that wouldn't be enough to make anyone fake a corked bat, would it?
    I agree, it sounds like this guy is trying to make a buck, I dont blame him for trying to make money, its a non issue, the hit record is Pete's and it will be his for a long time

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    I agree, it sounds like this guy is trying to make a buck, I dont blame him for trying to make money, its a non issue, the hit record is Pete's and it will be his for a long time
    The HR record is Bonds' and will be for a long time, well until AROD breaks it and then it'll be his.

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    The HR record is Bonds' and will be for a long time, well until AROD breaks it and then it'll be his.
    youre right about that, I think unless they let Pete in the hall then all the junkies dont deserve to go either, they did let Ricky Henderson in, so they did slip up
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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Would an owner of this bat want to increase the value from $5,000 to more than $100,000? Nah, that wouldn't be enough to make anyone fake a corked bat, would it?

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Pete urinated away all his credibility many many years ago.

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    Re: This Is Pete Rose's Corked Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    youre right about that, I think unless they let Pete in the hall then all the junkies dont deserve to go either, they did let Ricky Henderson in, so they did slip up
    If all he did was cork his bat, I'd be in favor of him getting into the Hall. Betting on baseball is worse than PEDs, corking, spitters.....etc.


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