They were just about the only good thing about those teams. Now that the young starting pitchers have progressed a bit, and we have picked up a bunch of other missing pieces we've needed, they're the weak link. And it's with just about the same group of players that put those pens near the top of the league. Really disappointing to see the regression that they have shown. If they could play to their levels shown the past two years, our record would only look so much better.