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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    That's what the radar suggests.

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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Disagree. Things are blow out of proportion obviously because he's struggling so badly tonight. But when he's on, he's VERY good.
    if any pitcher is ON they are good. the problem with harang he is just stuck in the off position.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by toledodan View Post
    on a playoff team he's not a number 4 or 5 starter.
    Well the team we are fighting with has Suppan as it's #4 starter, #5 unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Maybe because in his last 9 starts he is 5-2 with a 3.93 ERA, 44-13 K/W ratio.

    The most runs he's given up in any of those 9 games is 4.
    There it is! I knew somebody was going to do it eventually. Nevermind the fact his ERA for the year is well over 5 and his record the last two years was 12-31, lets pick out nine starts.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    It's very hard to watch Harang pitch right now. Not only does he have nothing stuff, but his pace on the mound puts me to sleep. I can imagine what it does to his fielders.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfaninbsg View Post
    You think Harang is VERY good when he's on? He's pitched in what my opinion the best he's capable of in the last nine starts and his era is still around 4. That's VERY good?
    No, this is where we disagree. He wasn't "on" his last 9 starts. He was in between. I think we've all seen Aaron when he's ON his game. Just like we're seeing him off it tonight.

    This isn't saying that I don't think he'll be the first guy we trade once Edinson becomes ready (or someone else).
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Well the team we are fighting with has Suppan as it's #4 starter, #5 unknown.
    but he is there because of injuries not because he was top 5 coming out of the spring.
    there's nothing like bowling a 300 game! 13 now and retired.


    Ricky henderson has a higher OBP than C. patterson and he's retired. C. Trent 6-14-2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    No, this is where we disagree. He wasn't "on" his last 9 starts. He was in between. I think we've all seen Aaron when he's ON his game. Just like we're seeing him off it tonight.

    This isn't saying that I don't think he'll be the first guy we trade once Edinson becomes ready (or someone else).
    Yeah he was on his game 3-4 years ago.

    That Harang is long gone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    There it is! I knew somebody was going to do it eventually. Nevermind the fact his ERA for the year is well over 5 and his record the last two years was 12-31, lets pick out nine starts.
    His era is over 5. Which is why I'm saying he's like a #4 starter or so. As for his record the last 2 years...let's not get into win loss record. I think everybody here knows how useless the "W" stat is.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    He doesn't have a pitch he can consistently throw for strikes other than his fastball.

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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    His era is over 5. Which is why I'm saying he's like a #4 starter or so. As for his record the last 2 years...let's not get into win loss record. I think everybody here knows how useless the "W" stat is.
    12-31 can't be ignored.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Is the score 3-0? Have the Reds come up to bat yet?

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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

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    Is the score 3-0? Have the Reds come up to bat yet?
    Yes. Phillips is up with 1 out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Yeah he was on his game 3-4 years ago.

    That Harang is long gone.
    Agreed. THAT Harang ain't coming back. But he's still a decent pitcher and a useful pitcher. He's HIGHLY overpaid for the production he's putting out the past 3 years, that's for certain. But his stats are still decent for a #4 or so.
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    Re: 6/15/10 - Reds vs Dodgers Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    There it is! I knew somebody was going to do it eventually. Nevermind the fact his ERA for the year is well over 5 this year and his record the last two years was 12-31, lets pick out nine starts.
    The last 9 starts, after a poor start, indicates he was trending in the right direction.

    His ERA last year was 4.21.

    You are looking at his first 4 starts this year, otherwise his ERA is around 4 for about 40 starts.

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