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Thread: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yea or nay

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    Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yea or nay

    There's a debate on another board about this with people either on one side or the other:

    -He was never a dominant, or top, starting pitcher so he doesn't belong in the HOF.

    -He should be elected if he can stick around to make it to 300 wins.

    So, I thought I'd put it up to RedsZone. Does Jamie Moyer belong in the HOF?

    AND, do you think the official voters will elect him if he reaches 300 wins?



    I don't think he belongs in the HOF and I hope the voters feel the same way. He's been a good pitcher in a looooooooong career but that's the only thing on his side in the argument for the HOF.


    edit: I didn't see an option for adding a 2nd poll question. If that's possible maybe a mod could add "Do you think the official voters will elect him if he reaches 300 wins?" as a 2nd poll question.
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Moyer's given up more homer than anyone in MLB history. That's Hall worthy right there.
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    You can't have multiple poll questions in a single thread.

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Longevity does not equal HOF. If Blyleven's not in, no way should Moyer be in. Blyleven was a more dominant pitcher during his era than Moyer's been. Excellent career and a well above average pitcher...just not HOF worthy IMO (Blyleven is though IMO).
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    ^^^^

    IMO, they both should be in.

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    No way.
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Not in a million years

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Moyer is 47 and has 267 wins counting 9 this year. 300 is a pipe dream, but I guess if he could get there it might be different. Of course if my old pick-up truck was a brand new BMW ...
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    No, if there are no 'magic' HoF numbers he hasn't warranted being included in the Hall.

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Jamie Moyer is a lot more Charlie Hough/Dennis Martinez/Joe Niekro than he is a HOF pitcher.

    Those guys all had very long, slightly better than average careers. That's certainly no knock on any of them.

    But it's not worthy of a bust in Cooperstown, either.

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    IF he reaches 300 wins, I say yes, otherwise, no.
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Quote Originally Posted by 15fan View Post
    Jamie Moyer is a lot more Charlie Hough/Dennis Martinez/Joe Niekro than he is a HOF pitcher.

    Those guys all had very long, slightly better than average careers. That's certainly no knock on any of them.

    But it's not worthy of a bust in Cooperstown, either.
    Yep, he's below Hoyt Wilhelm in talent and way below in impact.

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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    If Jamie Moyer reaches 300 W largely in his 40's, I think the voters have to give him serious consideration. I'm not sure whether his other stats back his case very well though. Then again, there are probably other HOF pitchers worse than him (not that this really recommends his case either).
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Just because your around forever doesn't mean you get in the hall. Good pitcher, nice career, Hall of Famers need to be the elite though.
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    Re: Jamie Moyer: HOFer, yay or nay

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Then again, there are probably other HOF pitchers worse than him (not that this really recommends his case either).
    Probably not, I'd say the worst HOF pitcher is Rube Marquad, whose era vs the league is about par with Moyers.

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