Just watching MLB Tonight and Peter and Barry talking about Lee to the Reds again and Peter said that he's thought the Reds were a sleeper for Lee and that he talked to someone with the Reds today and they told him " you're not dreaming thats who we want "
Who wouldn't want Lee? The question is what do they want for him and is it worth just a 3-4 month rental because that is all it will be.
Alonso is thought, by outsiders at least, to be expendable because he's blocked positionally in the bigs.
Do something like Alonso, Mesoraco, Wood, and Duran or Rodriguez.
That should be more than enough, and completely worth it.
Then package Frazier, Maloney, and Heisey for a reliever and we're in the postseason.
that would be such a bad trade for the Reds.Originally Posted by TC81190
both of those would be terrible
but the first is what it's going to take to get lee.
What Ive been reading is that the last two times that Lee was traded, no top prospects were included and that for two months of a rental, Seattle is not going to be able to demand several, let alone one top prospect. I think Alonso and some Class A or AA guy could do it.
Seriously? That leaves no room for error/injuries for the next 5 years. These proposals are just simply laughable.
"He looked like a surfer kid from SoCal," manager Dusty Baker says. "He didn't say much, but you could tell he was cool."
Nobody can really figure out what the Indians were thinking in that trade of Lee to Philly. That was the only time he's been traded other than when he was a prospect in the big trade of Phillips/Sizemore/Lee for colon. I hope you are right, but I'm about certain there are way too many teams out there for his value to be that low. I don't even think Alonso and Bailey/Wood would get it done.
I have no problem trading Yonder Alonso and Mesoraco for Cliff Lee. Grandal will probably move past Mesoraco at some point. That's why I think the Reds drafted him. Yonder has no position and is blocked from the Reds major league team.
I'm not crazy about trading Travis Wood though.
Not so sure how much value Alonso has right now considering he's batting around .220.
The Reds would be foolish to trade Wood at this point. Wood has a lot of potential. He's never had an opportunity to pitch at the next level. Give the kid a chance to show his stuff in the bigs. I'm very interested in seeing what he can do in his upcoming start. He reminds me of John Tudor from 'back when' if anyone remembers him.
It is OK to try to win now you know... trading away a few prospects for a guy that you KNOW will get you not only in, but FAR in, the playoffs right now is well worth it in my mind. the Reds are stacked with potential down on the farm, and it would be OK if the Reds decided to get super strong now and start a winning tradition that the younger guys can look forward to.
Alonso is not going to help the team anytime soon...I hate to say it, but he is very positioned locked down and he deserves better and a chance. help him and yourself and trade for LEE!
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Peter gammons was referring to yonder alonso as yonder alfonso lol
Peter Gammons ain't the same guy he used to be for sure.
Regarding Alonso, I agree he really doesn't have a spot here beyond where he is now for the next several years.
That could be similar to the Expos trading Phillips, Sizemore, Lee...which would be just plain awful.
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