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    Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    mlbtraderumors BLUE JAYS have acquired ESCOBAR and JO-JO REYES from Braves in exchange for ALEX GONZALEZ, TIM COLLINS & INF TYLER PASTRONICKY.
    http://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/18529859022

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Braves not at all impressed with Escobar, when Bobby Cox doesn't like you as a player than you're doing something wrong.

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    That's quite the gamble by Atlanta. If Gonzalez continues having the kind of season he's been having, it could pay off. But if he doesn't -- I'm not sure how they'll feel. Escobar has been a disappointment with the bat, but he's most certainly been very good in the field.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Well this means no Gonzalez to STL too.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner View Post
    Well this means no Gonzalez to STL too.
    Too bad for us.....

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    What do we know about Collins and Pastronicky? I would have loved to grab Escobar. Seems like a pretty cheap price paid by the Jays.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Had Reyes made more than a start or two for the Braves this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed View Post
    Had Reyes made more than a start or two for the Braves this year?
    Nope. They have a set rotation now with Hanson, Hudson, Jurrjens, Medlen and Lowe. Kawakami was in there for Medlen until Medlen started pitching so well in Jurrjens' absence. Reyes was a man without a role.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Great trade for the Blue Jays, IMO. I would have loved to have seen the Reds acquire Escobar.
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    Nutty trade!
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    Interesting. Escobar has been on the outs for the last 18 months and has really struggled at the plate this year (.046 ISO!). But he's been a bit BABIP unlucky, has walked more than he struck out, and is excellent defensively. He's just a great buy low candidate. Reyes is AAA filler with decent stuff for a lefty -- he just doesn't miss bats or throw strikes.

    On the Braves side, Gonzalez probably isn't a huge upgrade over Escobar, but it does help the clubhouse. Collins meanwhile looks like the second coming of Billy Wagner on the stat sheet. I've not heard of him, but a 20 year old lefty reliever striking out 15.3 per 9 in AA? Yes please. And he wasn't even drafted -- I'd love to know that story.

    Pastronicky was a 5th rd pick in 2008. Looks like a classic speedy SS type, with 57 SB in 2009. He showed a pretty good plate approach for a 19 year old in A Ball.

    I'd say that unless Escobar reaches his potential, the Braves made out pretty darn well.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Interesting. Escobar has been on the outs for the last 18 months and has really struggled at the plate this year (.046 ISO!). But he's been a bit BABIP unlucky, has walked more than he struck out, and is excellent defensively. He's just a great buy low candidate. Reyes is AAA filler with decent stuff for a lefty -- he just doesn't miss bats or throw strikes.

    On the Braves side, Gonzalez probably isn't a huge upgrade over Escobar, but it does help the clubhouse. Collins meanwhile looks like the second coming of Billy Wagner on the stat sheet. I've not heard of him, but a 20 year old lefty reliever striking out 15.3 per 9 in AA? Yes please. And he wasn't even drafted -- I'd love to know that story.

    Pastronicky was a 5th rd pick in 2008. Looks like a classic speedy SS type, with 57 SB in 2009. He showed a pretty good plate approach for a 19 year old in A Ball.

    I'd say that unless Escobar reaches his potential, the Braves made out pretty darn well.

    Collins is strange one. Don't know anything about him, but he strikes out a ton, and is listed at 5 foot 7 inches. That's an inch taller than Herrera. That's really baffling, especially since he's in AA, which means he's not a fluke. I would love to see him pitch or read more about him.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Collins meanwhile looks like the second coming of Billy Wagner on the stat sheet. I've not heard of him, but a 20 year old lefty reliever striking out 15.3 per 9 in AA? Yes please. And he wasn't even drafted -- I'd love to know that story.
    You might want to listen to this then. JP Ricciardi just stumbled onto him at a local high school game. JP does radio up here regularly, and Collins came up when they were talking about Daniel Nava, around 5 minutes in.

    http://audio.weei.com/m/32005740/jp-...pn-analyst.htm
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquire Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    You might want to listen to this then. JP Ricciardi just stumbled onto him at a local high school game. JP does radio up here regularly, and Collins came up when they were talking about Daniel Nava, around 5 minutes in.

    http://audio.weei.com/m/32005740/jp-...pn-analyst.htm
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