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    MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

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    I don't really see any top end starters on that list, but for the bullpen, would the Brewers be a match with Riske or Coffey?
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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    I like Dotel

    Also wouldn't mind DeJesus and Farnsworth.. 30K's in 37 innings giving up just over a hit an inning.... and has allowed 10 Runs this year..
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    I know I'm in the minority here, but I just don't see a starting pitcher as being a priority for us. I know we don't have that proverbial ace, but our staff overall matches up very well with other clubs. Add in our offense, and I just don't see the need. IMO our top 2 needs are a well rounded SS (or at least a move to Janish more), and some upgraded bullpen arms.

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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Let's match the buyers up with their logical seller counterparts.

    Buyer: Angels - Bullpen and 1st base
    Seller: Blue Jays - Scott Downs & Lyle Overbay

    Braves - RH Bat
    Brewers - Corey Hart

    Cardinals - Mid Level Starter
    Indians - Jake Westbrook

    Dodgers - Starter & Reliever
    Brewers - Carlos Villanueva & *Randy Wolf (*Not on sellers list)

    Giants - Bat
    Marlins - Jorge Cantu

    Mets - Bullpen & Top End Starter
    Cubs - Carlos Marmol & Ted Lilly

    Padres - Bat
    Royals - Jose Guillen

    Phillies - Mid Level Starter, Bullpen & IF
    Oakland - Ben Sheets
    KC - Alberto Callaspo & Kyle Farnsworth

    Rangers - Top end Starter (still, really?)
    NO TRADE AVAILABLE that they can afford

    Rays - RF
    NA

    Red Sox - OF Depth & Bullpen
    Royals - David DeJesus

    Rockies - IF
    No good match

    Tigers - Bullpen
    Brewers - David Riske

    Twins - Top end starter & 3rd Base
    O's - Ty Wigginton (no pitching available in their price range)

    White Sox - LH bat
    Brewers - Prince Fielder

    Yankees - Bench & Bullpen
    Who knows

    Reds - TOR Starter and Bullpen
    D-Backs - Chad Qualls
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    I have never been a Farnsworth fan, but he might be the best bet to improve the pen.

    Dotel's ERA and WHIP numbers are a concern. Riske hasn't pitched very much so I wonder about his health. I'm not sure the Reds want to try any more Coffey. If the price is reasonable, Farnsworth might be worth a try.

    I also like Callaspo. He was a shortstop in the Angels system, but they were deep at the position. He was right there developmentally with Aybar, and Brandon Wood was a level below and emerging (at the time) as their top prospect. With their depth at shortstop, the Angels moved Callaspo to second base. When the Angels decided Howie Kendrick was a future batting champ, Callaspo became expendable.

    I don't know if the Reds and Royals match up though. It seems they have similar strengths in their systems. Seemingly, they wouldn't want Alonso with Hosmer around, and they have minor league pitching depth.
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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    I have never been a Farnsworth fan, but he might be the best bet to improve the pen.

    Dotel's ERA and WHIP numbers are a concern. Riske hasn't pitched very much so I wonder about his health. I'm not sure the Reds want to try any more Coffey. If the price is reasonable, Farnsworth might be worth a try.

    I also like Callaspo. He was a shortstop in the Angels system, but they were deep at the position. He was right there developmentally with Aybar, and Brandon Wood was a level below and emerging (at the time) as their top prospect. With their depth at shortstop, the Angels moved Callaspo to second base. When the Angels decided Howie Kendrick was a future batting champ, Callaspo became expendable.

    I don't know if the Reds and Royals match up though. It seems they have similar strengths in their systems. Seemingly, they wouldn't want Alonso with Hosmer around, and they have minor league pitching depth.
    Callaspo is a butcher. Brutal defender. I do think we match up well with KC though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Callaspo is a butcher. Brutal defender. I do think we match up well with KC though.
    Really, I didn't know that, he's looked solid (and versatile) every time I have seen him. Good bat off the bench at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I know I'm in the minority here, but I just don't see a starting pitcher as being a priority for us. I know we don't have that proverbial ace, but our staff overall matches up very well with other clubs. Add in our offense, and I just don't see the need. IMO our top 2 needs are a well rounded SS (or at least a move to Janish more), and some upgraded bullpen arms.
    Agreed, and that is probably why Lee isn't here right now. Walt isn't going to overpay when he might not need to get that guy. If a TOR guy is there for the taking and the price is in the budget, 100% he'd make the deal. But I think they are happy with this team and with the future of the team. They aren't going to burn it down just because they are within striking distance in 2010. That would be a rookie move, to be quite honest.

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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Let's match the buyers up with their logical seller counterparts.

    Buyer: Angels - Bullpen and 1st base
    Seller: Blue Jays - Scott Downs & Lyle Overbay

    Braves - RH Bat
    Brewers - Corey Hart

    Cardinals - Mid Level Starter
    Indians - Jake Westbrook

    Dodgers - Starter & Reliever
    Brewers - Carlos Villanueva & *Randy Wolf (*Not on sellers list)

    Giants - Bat
    Marlins - Jorge Cantu

    Mets - Bullpen & Top End Starter
    Cubs - Carlos Marmol & Ted Lilly

    Padres - Bat
    Royals - Jose Guillen

    Phillies - Mid Level Starter, Bullpen & IF
    Oakland - Ben Sheets
    KC - Alberto Callaspo & Kyle Farnsworth

    Rangers - Top end Starter (still, really?)
    NO TRADE AVAILABLE that they can afford

    Rays - RF
    NA

    Red Sox - OF Depth & Bullpen
    Royals - David DeJesus

    Rockies - IF
    No good match

    Tigers - Bullpen
    Brewers - David Riske

    Twins - Top end starter & 3rd Base
    O's - Ty Wigginton (no pitching available in their price range)

    White Sox - LH bat
    Brewers - Prince Fielder

    Yankees - Bench & Bullpen
    Who knows

    Reds - TOR Starter and Bullpen
    D-Backs - Chad Qualls
    In your view why wouldn't the Rockies and Marlins (Uggla) be a good match?
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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Callaspo is a butcher. Brutal defender. I do think we match up well with KC though.
    When Callaspo was in the Angels' system, he was skinny little guy with a good middle infielder's glove. He has bulked up, added some power to his bat, but lost some range. He still has pretty good hands, can provide some offense, and wouldn't be a bad bench addition.

    How do the Reds "match up well with KC"?
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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/07/14/m...s-and-sellers/

    I don't really see any top end starters on that list, but for the bullpen, would the Brewers be a match with Riske or Coffey?
    Hopefully the Brewers have forgave the Reds for tricking them into taking Weathers last year for their playoff run.Besides, doesn't Coffey hate the Reds?

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    Yeah, Coffey isn't too fond of the Reds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hook View Post
    Hopefully the Brewers have forgave the Reds for tricking them into taking Weathers last year for their playoff run.Besides, doesn't Coffey hate the Reds?
    No, He hates Redszone....
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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Seattle is still a good match for the Reds, if they're interested in Aardsma. Not sure I see too much different between he and Qualls though. Dotel and Lindstrom are two more interesting options. Mariners fans are pretty much anointing Brandon League as their next closer, and quite a few want Aardsma gone. I don't know much about him, other than the few times I saw him in the Cinci interleague series. His k and bb rates are better than Cordero (if that says anything). Aardsma and League are both under control for 2 more years, I think...so Seattle might not have a lot of motivation to move.

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    Re: MLB Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    Seattle is still a good match for the Reds, if they're interested in Aardsma. Not sure I see too much different between he and Qualls though. Dotel and Lindstrom are two more interesting options. Mariners fans are pretty much anointing Brandon League as their next closer, and quite a few want Aardsma gone. I don't know much about him, other than the few times I saw him in the Cinci interleague series. His k and bb rates are better than Cordero (if that says anything). Aardsma and League are both under control for 2 more years, I think...so Seattle might not have a lot of motivation to move.
    Aardsma's numbers are very similar to Cordero's. Do we really need another Coco?


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