what Card fans are saying about now?
what Card fans are saying about now?
this reminds me so much of the braves in the early 90's. young,talented and deep. cardinals fans should be very worried.
I just want them to lose for a freaking change. Annoying pests.
They are saying these type of quotes.
"Once we get healthy, they Reds wont keep up. All this time we have been keeping pace even though our starting 3rd baseman and 2 of our starters have been out"
"That offense is a joke, its completely aided by GABP"
"They are gonna have to shut Leake down soon"
Of course all of those quotes are something we could say and just change some words.
Quote from another site.A lot of it's GABP, true, but it also seems the Reds are getting a decade's worth of good luck all packed into this one season, so far.
They dont see that Freese fell back to earth, they dont think Garcia ever will, they think their team has been under producing.
And who cares what Cards fans think? This reminds me of Cards fans that needed validation in 2004 when the Cards came out of nowhere in a division that they were given little chance in. You guys have a great young team. Enjoy it.
I don't care what Cards fans think in terms of validating whether the Reds are a good team or not.
But it does seem that the Cardinal players and fans don't have any respect for the Reds. That they think the Reds are just lucky and playing over their heads. And that the Reds haven't had to endure many injuries, etc., etc.
Sure, the Cards lost their #4 and #5 starters. But the Reds rotation from the start of the season was Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, Leake. Bailey and Harang have missed quite a bit lately. Cards didn't lose their best catcher, like the Reds did. And Hanigan still hasn't found his hitting stroke yet since returning.
I do think the Reds have the better defense. I also think the Reds lineup from top to bottom is better than the Cards lineup. I think Pujols and Holliday are better than our #3 and #4 hitters........but not by that much.
I also think our bullpen is starting to come into shape. I still hope we bolster it with a trade.
I also think and predict that Carpenter is going to go down with an injury. He isn't right.
"I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.
"Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread
As far as Carpenter goes, he looked shaky after that ball hit his forearm, but pitched alright against the DBacks after that. The next two starts he got shelled against the Brewers and hit pretty good against the Rockies, but he dominated the Dodgers on Thursday, so I'm not sure what to make of him. I doubt that he's hurt, but with his history that's always in question. I just think we're seeing the signs of the guy aging, he's just not as dominant anymore. Even when the results were there earlier in the season his stuff just didn't look as good as it did in years past.
Sorry this was so long. Look forward to conversation the rest of the season with you guys.
Last edited by Razzle; 07-18-2010 at 03:27 AM.
Carpenter's numbers are nearly identical to 2004-2006 Carpenter. I think it's less "not right" and more that his HR/9 and a couple other peripherals from last year were unsustainable.
I think as things are now they have way underperformed. Not just some of the players, that's to be somewhat expected year to year, but they are 4 wins below their Pythagorean projection.
To be fair, Ludwick has been out a month, Penny was having a career year, Lohse is a 5 guy and Freese was providing league average offense and defense. The injury bug has obviously hit them harder.
Anyways, I expect the Cardinals to get it together in the 2nd half. They're honestly too good not to. Our luck in May is pretty undeniable. But I think we take the wildcard. Can't see the Mets hanging around and Utley being out is hurting the Phillies a ton. We'll battle it out with Colorado and LA. I'd rather have Volquez in bullpen though. I think that's better for the team in the short term and better for Volquez in the long term. The last thing I want to see is Dusty managing him in a pennant race a year after TJS.
I dont expect the Cardinals to have another month like in 2009 where they went 20-6.
In Stl, they are saying "we're finally winning. We've played HORRIBLE so far this year, and we are still only 1/2 game out of first. We're going to play like Cardinals for the rest of the year and win the division by about 10 games. I just hope we can go deeper in the playoffs than last year."
If you really wanted to know.
"If Volquez is truly back and Wood is the real thing (and he looks pretty good thru 2 against the Rockies today), I think we're in for a fight to the finish for the Central crown."
that's from gatewayredbirds.com
"It's good to be in 1st"