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    July 19 Transactions

    An end to the Reds organizational career of Sean Watson, released unconditionally today.

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    Sometimes the numbers do tell the story. He was pitching better after his demotion to Lynchburg; but not better enough, I guess.

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    Thanks, '72. It's a shame things didn't work out for Watson. Things looked very promising for him early in his career.

    Is there any word on Terrell Young? The Reds supposedly paid $25,000 to bring him back to the organization, and I believe he was assigned to Billings before their season started, but we haven't heard of him doing anything since then. I know he has dealt with a shoulder injury, so maybe that's related to why we haven't seen him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Thanks, '72. It's a shame things didn't work out for Watson. Things looked very promising for him early in his career.

    Is there any word on Terrell Young? The Reds supposedly paid $25,000 to bring him back to the organization, and I believe he was assigned to Billings before their season started, but we haven't heard of him doing anything since then. I know he has dealt with a shoulder injury, so maybe that's related to why we haven't seen him.
    I thought that was scratched because the Nats offered him back and he was injured. Basically the Nats were trying to skip out on paying an injured guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I thought that was scratched because the Nats offered him back and he was injured. Basically the Nats were trying to skip out on paying an injured guy.
    It was in the first attempt (back in May or so of 2009), but in the off-season (somewhat close to opening day iIrc), he was offered back to the Reds again, and they accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsof72 View Post
    An end to the Reds organizational career of Sean Watson, released unconditionally today.
    The first true bust of the Buckley era.

    I'd like to see Junior Arias in Billings soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    The first true bust of the Buckley era.

    I'd like to see Junior Arias in Billings soon.
    Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?
    That brings up a question I have for the zone. Is plate discipline emphasized equally throughout the minors, or, does it tend to take a back seat to aggressiveness and work on the swing at the lower levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?
    Plate discipline is less than critical when you're OPSing > 1.000 (with an OBP > .400).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Plate discipline is less than critical when you're OPSing > 1.000 (with an OBP > .400).
    Except when it says you won't continue to do that and that pitchers are doing a good job of fooling you quite often at the lowest level. He might punish mistakes, but he is abolsutely being fooled often right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Except when it says you won't continue to do that and that pitchers are doing a good job of fooling you quite often at the lowest level. He might punish mistakes, but he is abolsutely being fooled often right now.
    If batting .372 is "abolsutely (sic) being fooled right now" then I hope the Reds can assemble a team of morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?
    What about Billy Hamilton's 2009 suggested he was ready for Billings this year? The kid was an out machine in the GCL. Sometimes kids talent exceeds their skills. I don't think Junior Arias should be in the Pioneer league this year. But not exactly for the same reason you do. I think with a kid like Arias he still has some adjusting to do that Hamilton doesn't. Arias does seem to be the better hitter, certainly more power, but Hamilton had to deal with a tougher hitters league in the GCL as opposed to the hitter friendly AZL. That said, the next HR Hamilton hits as a Mustang will be his first professional HR. Kid has zero power, but that isn't his game.

    I think Arias would struggle a bit in the Pioneer league but eventually adjust. I don't see the need to rush an 18 year old kid. 19 in the Pioneer league is still pretty young.
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    Billy's game...

    I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellhead View Post
    Billy's game...

    I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.
    Power will probably develop unless hes Luis Castillo which given his speed wouldnt be a bad major league player, and depending on his D could be a very good major league palyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellhead View Post
    Billy's game...

    I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.
    yeah, I'd like it to be 1976 too. Name a single MLB SS or 2B that does this without some power component to his game? Andrus and..... I got nothing.

    of the 21 2B that qualify for a batting title, only 1 will steal 30 bases this year. Chone Figgins, and one other might, Ryan Theriot. BP is going to fall short, but might steal 20. Not a single 2B fits your criteria of anything near a .400 OBP without power except Kinsler, and he's been hurt this year. He'll still finish with 10+ HR's

    At SS, that number increases to 3 that more than likely will, and 6 total that could steal 30. Half of those will have double digit HR's, with Ramirez maybe hitting 30 if he gets hot. Only Andrus is devoid of power. Only Furcal comes close to a .400 OBP (.391). Ramirez is second at .377, and Andrus 3rd at .358

    CF is a different animal, as many as 17 guys with a shot at 30 SB's. 11 of those will finish with 10+ HR's, 6 of those with 20+ HR's.


    Your expectations of what a MI is, are well, unrealistic.
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