Mesoraco Minor League POTY Candidate

[TRF]

Overall though Sappelt is only at an .857 OPS. Guy has had a very good year, but it hasn't quite been dominant. Yet. Still a 6 weeks left to get to that point.

it was only 19 games at High A. I'd say he's been fairly dominant.

[dougdirt]

it was only 19 games at High A. I'd say he's been fairly dominant.

But it was 19 pretty bad games with a sub .700 OPS. I can't call a guy with an .860 OPS fairly dominant. He has been good, maybe even very good.

[TRF]

a .905 OPS against tougher competition, and a larger sample size. And I read he's a good defender too. That is pretty dominant. Not Mez dominant, but he should be in the discussion for Reds minor league POTY.

[GIDP]

a .905 OPS against tougher competition, and a larger sample size. And I read he's a good defender too. That is pretty dominant. Not Mez dominant, but he should be in the discussion for Reds minor league POTY.

I dont know if anyone is disagreeing but there is also "of the year" on the award. I think you have to take in the bad time he had into the equation when you are handing out some hardware like that.

[dougdirt]

a .905 OPS against tougher competition, and a larger sample size. And I read he's a good defender too. That is pretty dominant. Not Mez dominant, but he should be in the discussion for Reds minor league POTY.

The player of the year is for that, the year. It isn't player of the year looking at your last stop.

[TRF]

The player of the year is for that, the year. It isn't player of the year looking at your last stop.

Thanks for clearing that up. So if he finishes the year at AA with an OPS of .905+ he shouldn't be in the discussion because of 19 games. At the beginning of the year.


gotcha.

I dont know if anyone is disagreeing but there is also "of the year" on the award. I think you have to take in the bad time he had into the equation when you are handing out some hardware like that.

see above. it was 19 games.

I'm not saying he should win the award. That should be Mesoraco. I'm saying he's in the conversation right now.

[GIDP]

Thanks for clearing that up. So if he finishes the year at AA with an OPS of .905+ he shouldn't be in the discussion because of 19 games. At the beginning of the year.


gotcha.



see above. it was 19 games.

Being in the discussion is fine, but based off his year he isnt really close to a couple other guys. Lets say at the end of the year his stats are through the roof, he will be in the discusion just as much as anyone, but yes those first 19 games cant be ignored.

[TRF]

Being in the discussion is fine, but based off his year he isnt really close to a couple other guys. Lets say at the end of the year his stats are through the roof, he will be in the discusion just as much as anyone, but yes those first 19 games cant be ignored.

Say his stats are through the roof. He goes on a monster tear in August, pushing his OPS to well over 1.000+ wanna bet nobody in the Reds FO will give a whit about those 1st 19 games?

[dougdirt]

Say his stats are through the roof. He goes on a monster tear in August, pushing his OPS to well over 1.000+ wanna bet nobody in the Reds FO will give a whit about those 1st 19 games?

That is the thing though, if he does that in August, it will probably push his season OPS over .900. In which case, he would have been dominant. But right now, he is sitting at.857 for the season.

[11larkin11]

TRF vs. Doug

Sappelt is like the anti-Stubbs

[GIDP]

Say his stats are through the roof. He goes on a monster tear in August, pushing his OPS to well over 1.000+ wanna bet nobody in the Reds FO will give a whit about those 1st 19 games?

Yes if his OPS is over 1.000 those first 19 games wont matter as much, but thats also just like if Mesoraco went into a slump and finished very poorly. The whole season worth of stats matter.

[nemesis]

So after such a solid season at the dish and in the field where does this place Sappelt in the order of prospects in the Reds system still considered rookies? Top 10 -15?

Chapman
Wood
Mesoraco
Heisey
Alonso
Joseph
Cozart
Francisco
Frazier
Yorman
Hamilton
Duran
Soto
Sappelt

[Mario-Rijo]

So after such a solid season at the dish and in the field where does this place Sappelt in the order of prospects in the Reds system still considered rookies? Top 10 -15?

Chapman
Wood
Mesoraco
Heisey
Alonso
Joseph
Cozart
Francisco
Frazier
Yorman
Hamilton
Duran
Soto
Sappelt

JMO but production doesn't necessarily equate to being a good prospect. I'd rather push guys ahead of him who have a better upside. Watching him play at Dayton he seemed like a poor mans Ryan Freel someday, IF he makes the proper adjustments. Poor arm, power is minimal (though decent for his size), needs to improve his approach at the plate for his talent to translate to the majors. Future backup CF type at best IMO. I'm thinking mid twenties as a ranking.

[dougdirt]

JMO but production doesn't necessarily equate to being a good prospect. I'd rather push guys ahead of him who have a better upside. Watching him play at Dayton he seemed like a poor mans Ryan Freel someday, IF he makes the proper adjustments. Poor arm, power is minimal (though decent for his size), needs to improve his approach at the plate for his talent to translate to the majors. Future backup CF type at best IMO. I'm thinking mid twenties as a ranking.

Not sure if you knew this (I didn't until this season), but Sappelt had an arm injury last season. Perhaps that explains some of the throwing issues.

[flash]

Lets take a closer look. Yes, Merasco has a higher OPS, but only with the bases empty. With runners only Sappelt had a OPS of 1.111 versus Merrasco's .862, with runners in scoring position sappelt beats merrasco 1.042 versus Merasco's .621. Merrasco has six errors this year versus 0 for Sappelt.

The only guy who beats Sappelt's Southern league totals is Robinson Chirinos who also beats merrasco's AA totals in average and OPS. So Merasco may not even be the best catcher let alone the POY