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    The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

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    A major league source tells me that, contrary to what we've all been hearing for the past several days, the Phillies are not the front runners for Roy Oswalt. The St. Louis Cardinals are.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Maybe the Reds can kidnap him this weekend

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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    What could the Cards possibly have to offer that the Astros would want?
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Where are they going to get the money to pay for him, Carpenter, Pujols, Holliday and Wainwright, is DeWitt printing money in his basement? I don't think they have the prospects either.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    They're in a bigger market, and probably sell out a lot more games than the Reds do. Not a bad start

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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    It's the Cards. Acquire what you need now, worry how you pay them later, after you win.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Quote Originally Posted by alloverjr View Post
    What could the Cards possibly have to offer that the Astros would want?
    Shelby Miller and...um...uh...Jaime Garcia maybe, if the Cardinals expect him to hit his IP limit just as they're making a playoff push?

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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Where are they going to get the money to pay for him, Carpenter, Pujols, Holliday and Wainwright, is DeWitt printing money in his basement? I don't think they have the prospects either.
    Reportedly, Oswalt demands that any team that trades for him pick up his 2012 $16M option. That is why the Phillies have stepped back.

    If the Cards do that, they should do well this year, but will be in a real payflex bind next year and especially 2012, when they have to re-sign Pujols.

    Currently, they don't have the payflex to sign Pujols with their current payroll situation. Adding $16M to that for an aging pitcher will make it even more impossible.

    In terms of prospects, Oswalt's demands seems to have put the Astros in the position where they have to accept a trade to whichever team will accept those demands, as I can't imagine too many teams, if any willing to do that.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    They're looking to add a Reds killer to two hammers at the top of the rotation.

    The Reds don't have a hammer. They HOPE they do, but time will tell.

    I'm thinking nausea is setting in.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    While the Cards go after Roy Oswalt a year after adding Matt Holliday at the deadline, the Reds mine baseball hospice for Russ Springer and Jason Isringhausen.

    Psychologically, what a blow this would be to the Reds players.

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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    While the Cards go after Roy Oswalt a year after adding Matt Holliday at the deadline, the Reds mine baseball hospice for Russ Springer and Jason Isringhausen.

    Psychologically, what a blow this would be to the Reds players.
    Well said.... I am sure that there are some players who feel that adding Springer/Izzy is nothing more than simply standing pat.

    Of course, if you are used to hearing that the Reds are "sellers" about this time every year, standing pat could pass for exciting.

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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    Psychologically, what a blow this would be to the Reds players.
    I'm more worried about what it would do psychologically to the Sundeck...
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Walt's upgraded the Reds defense, time to see how his is.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    They're in a bigger market, and probably sell out a lot more games than the Reds do. Not a bad start
    Their market is just a little bit bigger than our's. Certainly they have much better attendance; winning has a way of causing that. But we've bought into this "small market" mantra so long, we take it for granted. Our overall fan base market is considerable and we've been working on recovering that since the debacle years of Marge Schott and her shortsightedness. But no question, they draw significantly better than we do and are far more lively at those games. I think we're making strides, but we've still got a ways to go.

    That said, not sure where they'll get the money in their budget to cover an Oswalt, particularly long term. I hope it's breaks them, frankly.
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    Re: The Cardinals are the front runners for Roy Oswalt

    Tip of the cap to the Cards if they get him. Hopefully Walt stays the course and doesn't let this affect him. The Reds only have to worry about themselves at this point. Win and they are in. The Cards getting Oswalt, at worst, would only directly affect them in 2 reg season games (at most) and, if they are lucky, in the NLCS.


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