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    Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

    CINCINNATI, Ohio - "Johnny, its Pete". With those three simple words, years of hard feelings began to thaw. Johnny Bench tells me that when Pete Rose called him out of the blue two months ago, he was somewhat surprised. Especially because Pete said he wanted to talk about the gulf that had separated the two baseball icons for decades.
    And Pete was well aware of how the unseemly end to his career had cast a shadow over the proceedings in Cooperstown. He addressed it almost immediately after meeting Johnny July 10th.

    "I'm sorry", Pete said solemnly according to Bench. "I know I put you through a lot back then and I'm sorry for it. I could always talk to Joe (Morgan) and Tony (Perez) but I just couldn't open up to you."
    Pete offered, "I think I now know what Bart Giamatti meant when he said I have to reconfigure my lifestyle". And apparently he is finally attempting to do that.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Wow, Pete finally showing some humility and hubris, at age 69.

    Maybe he had a health scare, maybe he's finally maturing and can sense his own mortality. Who knows?

    Whatever it is- it's a good thing.

    Two of the greatest Reds, on one of the greatest teams ever- the Big Red Machine, ever not speaking to each other for years afterward- very much like like Gehrig and Ruth of the "Murder's Row" Yankees.

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Probably finally understanding that unless he acts differently he'll never get into the HOF.

    I'm guessing a financial motivation......

    I can't shake his refual to sign a baseball card for my son in 2006 when presented to him. He only signs baseball cards for payment.

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Interesting stuff for sure, especially about the possibility of Pete humbling himself a bit. However, I was under the impression that things had thawed between the two some years ago. I saw Rose and Bench together at Caesar's in Vegas doing a signing together. Their tables were about 5 feet apart and they were chatting back and forth a bit as well. That's been about 6 years ago so maybe things got bad again in the meantime.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Probably finally understanding that unless he acts differently he'll never get into the HOF.

    I'm guessing a financial motivation......

    I can't shake his refual to sign a baseball card for my son in 2006 when presented to him. He only signs baseball cards for payment.
    Well, for whatever it's worth, Bench did the same to me some years ago.

    Rose has always been much freer with signing stuff than Bench ever was. And I can't blame either of them for not doing so- it's how they make a living these days. Guys looking to get autographs to resell often take kids with them to sessions to tug on heartstrings.

    Not to start a discussion or a fight at all, but I think that Pete will be in the HoF, and he deserves to be there, but it will be after he passes away. They should induct (I almost spelled it "indict") him and Shoeless Joe at the same time.

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Well, for whatever it's worth, Bench did the same to me some years ago.

    Rose has always been much freer with signing stuff than Bench ever was. And I can't blame either of them for not doing so- it's how they make a living these days. Guys looking to get autographs to resell often take kids with them to sessions to tug on heartstrings.

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    I wouldn't be suprised if most HOF players refuse to sign unless they are paid. It wouldnt be fair to someone such as myself who has paid $45 to get their autograph when they turn around and give a freebie to someone else. It's simply business.

    Nice to see Bench and Rose making peace. What the motivation is for Pete to make this gesture is hard to say.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    I wouldn't be suprised if most HOF players refuse to sign unless they are paid.
    I must have missed Rose's induction.....

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    I must have missed Rose's induction.....
    It was in 2004

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    I must have missed Rose's induction.....
    Fixed it.

    "I wouldn't be suprised if most HOF caliber players refuse to sign unless they are paid."
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    I'd much rather have a photo with the player in question, anyway. Autographs can be bought anywhere. I've honestly never seen the allure of them.

    A photo with that player is priceless and irrefutable evidence of your encounter with them.

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    Fixed it.

    "I wouldn't be suprised if most HOF caliber players refuse to sign unless they are paid."
    Barry Larkin gladly signed for my son.....

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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Well, for whatever it's worth, Bench did the same to me some years ago.

    Rose has always been much freer with signing stuff than Bench ever was. And I can't blame either of them for not doing so- it's how they make a living these days. Guys looking to get autographs to resell often take kids with them to sessions to tug on heartstrings.

    Not to start a discussion or a fight at all, but I think that Pete will be in the HoF, and he deserves to be there, but it will be after he passes away. They should induct (I almost spelled it "indict") him and Shoeless Joe at the same time.
    Agreed completely. Rose has always been much friendlier to me. I've met him a half dozen times or so. Bench however....he's been a rude jerk every single time. Frustrating because he WAS my favorite Red....until I met him.

    As for the hall....it won't happen until after he passes. Shame, but most likely the truth.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Agreed completely. Rose has always been much friendlier to me. I've met him a half dozen times or so. Bench however....he's been a rude jerk every single time. Frustrating because he WAS my favorite Red....until I met him.

    As for the hall....it won't happen until after he passes. Shame, but most likely the truth.
    I wrote this in a thread a couple of years ago, but it fits here, too.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...t=71877&page=2

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    When I was 11, I was in an advanced English class in fifth grade. One of our assignments was to write to a famous person, and ask him some questions about his or her job, and also to ask for some sort of information (like a booklet, pamphlet, or photo) that we could share with the class. It was a small class, and there were only two boys--myself and one other guy. I decided to write to Johnny Bench, and the other guy wrote to Earle Bruce, who had just completed his second year as head coach at Ohio State. About a week later, the other kid got a big envelope from OSU with a program, an OSU course catalog, an autographed picture, and a hand-written letter from Coach Bruce answering all his questions, and thanking him for his interest in Ohio State. I got nothing. About six weeks later, I got an envelope from the Reds. I received a form letter in which my name had been written in ink in the salutation. The letter mentioned Bench's awards and accomplishments (which I already knew about, and which answered none of my questions), and was signed with a stamp of Johnny Bench's signature. I also received a blank postcard with a 5x7 black-and-white portrait-type photo of Johnny Bench from 1972, also stamped with Bench's signature. (This was in 1981.) Needless to say, I was very disappointed.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    The real test of whether this means anything is if JB comes out with a public statement that's in any way sympathetic toward Pete's plight. His public statements about it in the past have been highly unsupportive. If he just declines to comment about it from now on, even that would be an improvement.
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    Re: Pete Rose Apologizes To Johnny Bench

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Agreed completely. Rose has always been much friendlier to me. I've met him a half dozen times or so. Bench however....he's been a rude jerk every single time. Frustrating because he WAS my favorite Red....until I met him.

    As for the hall....it won't happen until after he passes. Shame, but most likely the truth.
    FWIW Pete treated my buddy like crap when he met him... and my friend was only 7.


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