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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Wonder if there's a more serious underlying problem they thought might be fixed by the move to the pen. Not that they're ignoring something, but that something's wrong with B physically that hasn't been found. Hope this is not the explanation.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Something is weird about Box. I simply cant believe that hitters laying off a breaking ball changed him from a good control pitcher to a terrible pitcher who gives up a ton of hits and 3 times more home runs.

    something else is going on than just the hitters.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    Something is weird about Box. I simply cant believe that hitters laying off a breaking ball changed him from a good control pitcher to a terrible pitcher who gives up a ton of hits and 3 times more home runs.

    something else is going on than just the hitters.
    Agreed. If hitters were laying off Boxberger's stuff then he probably wouldn't have 32 K's in 23.2 innings with Carolina.
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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    A lot of strikeouts + a lot of walks = the hitters know that their best shot against Boxberger is to have a patient plate approach.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    I feel like this thread is like the Janish thread in the ORG.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Travis Wood had a similar disaster in AA his first time though after being good in High A. We all know how the next season turned out. If this is September next year and we are having the same discussion, then I'll be worried.
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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Back to the original topic, Guillon really showed his best stuff in a high pressure situation tonight.

    5 IP 2 H 1 BB 8 K...

    He has to be a candidate for Dayton next year.

    Lotzkar, Tuttle, Corcino, Correa and Guillon are defiantly cream of the crop in terms of arms in going to Dayton next year.
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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    From Kevin Goldstein:

    Ismael Guillon, LHP, Reds (Rookie-level AZL Reds): 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 8 K. 18-year-old Venezuelan was one of the most impressive arms in Arizona; Long, projectable lefty who already has plenty of now stuff.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Combine Guillon's playoff start last night with his stats from the regular season and you get this:

    62 IP, 42 H, 1 HR, 25 BB, 81 K, 3.05 ERA, 11.76 K/9
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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    I tweeted this to Keith Law:

    Any chance Ismael Guillon or Jonathan Correa jump into the #Reds top 5 next season?

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    Guillon could. Like him a lot.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Thats awesome. Where does his fastball normally sit around, and what does he top out at, if you happen to know?

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    I don't know if it would be rushing him or not, but I'd love to see Guillon start out w/ the Dragons this year. After Hamilton & Yorman, who should both be in Dayton this year, he's the guy who'd development I'm most interested in this season.

    A dominant season in Dayton, along w/ the graduations of Yonder, Chapmann and potentially Mes, could easily push Guillon into the Reds top 5 next year.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by nate1213 View Post
    Thats awesome. Where does his fastball normally sit around, and what does he top out at, if you happen to know?
    Everything I have read or heard is that he sits at around 91-93. Probably tick out at 95 if he humped it up there. Very similar to Wood in terms of throwing speed and pitch selection.
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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by nate1213 View Post
    Thats awesome. Where does his fastball normally sit around, and what does he top out at, if you happen to know?
    I talked to a Reds official who said he was at 88-90 this year. BA has him sitting a little higher than that in their write ups after the season.

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    Re: Ismael Guillon - more than a sleeper

    In my mind, the only question about Lotzkar is his health. If he can stay healthy I believe he will definitely be in the top five, if not he will be relegated to the the Howington/Gruler heap.


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