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    Oswalt to the Phillies

    Ken_Rosenthal FOX 26 in Houston reporting #Astros and #Phillies have deal in place for Oswalt. Trying to confirm. His approval would be required. #MLB

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    ESPN said that the players have been agreed on, now it is just the matter of how much Houston is going to pay his salary (because since they can't get rid of Wreth) and I think Phillies want to talk to Oswalt about the feature as well.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5418615

    To me, it sounds like there's quite a bit of disagreement still and this is far from being a lock.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    "Oswalt to the Phillies"

    This is what I'm hearing on Houston radio as well. Oswalt to Phillies pending Roy's waiving of his trade clause. No word that I've heard as to who's going to the Astros.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Can someone remind me, once again, why the Phillies did not want to keep Cliff Lee?
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie View Post
    Can someone remind me, once again, why the Phillies did not want to keep Cliff Lee?
    Because they were stupid.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie View Post
    Can someone remind me, once again, why the Phillies did not want to keep Cliff Lee?
    I never figured out that one either. They could have had Lee and Halladay in their rotation this season.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Something about too many lefties, and then stupidity.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Something to do with Cliff Lee not being affordable to them after the 2010 season, thus they'd rather have Halladay guaranteed for 4 years than Lee for 1. Few felt that the Halladay trade could occur without shipping out Lee, but I'm not so sure.

    Of course, that looks stupid now that they're trading for Oswalt and his massive contract.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Well, I'm glad they are stupid. Nobody wants to face Halladay and Lee on back to back days.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    MLBTR:

    9:04am: The Astros will receive three players for Oswalt, tweets Rosenthal, while also paying a "very significant" part of his salary. Happ will be one of the three. Astros owner Drayton McLane has been negotiating directly with Phillies president David Montgomery, reports CBS' Danny Knobler.

    7:37am: SI's Jon Heyman hears the Astros and Phillies were discussing Happ, righty Vance Worley, and two younger pitchers (Twitter link). Worley, a 22-year-old righty, spent most of 2010 at Double A, posting a 3.20 ERA, 6.6 K/9, and 2.9 BB/9. Baseball America ranked him 18th among Phillies prospects heading into the season, predicting a future as a back-end starter or middle reliever.
    Reds equivalent:
    Matt Maloney, Brad Boxberger, and JC Sulbaran

    for Roy Oswalt and the Astros pick up a very significant portion of his salary?

    Is there a person on the planet that wouldn't do that deal??

    Small chance that you'd have to substitute Bailey for Maloney, but I still make that deal 8 days a week. You'd have to think the Stros were serious about not trading him within the division or he really wouldn't come to the Reds, because I can't imagine Jocketty couldn't beat that deal in his sleep.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    The Astros are ran by some insanely idiotic baseball men. That's all I know.
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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
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    Reds equivalent:
    Matt Maloney, Brad Boxberger, and JC Sulbaran
    Are you joking? Which one of those players is the equivalent of Happ? Maloney sure isn't. Bailey sure isn't either. Happ was a rookie of the year contender last year. He had a really good year with an era under 3.00. I just can't believe the Phillies put themselves in a position to where they had to give up a young pitcher like that when they could have just kept Lee. The Astros need Happ more than they need Oswalt. I don't know much about the other players, but Happ was certainly the main part of the trade. Without him, that trade doesn't happen. Matt Maloney doesn't = JA Happ.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life View Post
    Are you joking? Which one of those players is the equivalent of Happ? Maloney sure isn't. Bailey sure isn't either. Happ was a rookie of the year contender last year. He had a really good year with an era under 3.00. I just can't believe the Phillies put themselves in a position to where they had to give up a young pitcher like that when they could have just kept Lee. The Astros need Happ more than they need Oswalt. I don't know much about the other players, but Happ was certainly the main part of the trade. Without him, that trade doesn't happen. Matt Maloney doesn't = JA Happ.

    Happ is hugely overrated.

    His xFIP last year was about a run and half greater than his ERA.

    Soft tossing lefty, who's more likely to get much worse than much better.

    I'd take Bailey over him in a second.

    But Maloney is likely a fair comparison going forward. At least much closer than you think.

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    Re: Oswalt to the Phillies?

    Wasn't Lee a part of the three way trade that landed the Phillies Halladay? Or am I really not remembering that right?


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