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    Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Play Heisey EVERYDAY in LF.
    Call up Dickerson, platoon him and Stubbs in CF.
    Hope Cordero goes missing in the desert.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    You left out Jay Bruce

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Gomes, Stubbs, and Bruce. They all need offensive help.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    You left out Jay Bruce
    Only reason for that is because I had nobody to replace him with.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Trade for Adam Dunn. Stick Heisey in center. Platoon Bruce and Gomes in right.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Gomes came into play tonight with a -0.2 WAR. The run values for defensive metrics are blown a bit out of proportion, however, Gomes' defensive play in the 10th inning was devastating. That's the prime example of a ball that a good defensive left fielder - such as Heisey - catches that Gomes just couldn't get to.

    If Gomes isn't hitting - and he hasn't hit for two months - he's a massive liability.

    Cordero's command is gone. His July BB/9 is 9, which means he's averaging a walk per inning. It's tough to prevent runs when you're just giving the other team baserunners like that.
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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Cabrera and his .640 OPS in the two-hole says hi. Votto should sue for non-support.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Add Orlando Cabrera to the group. I'm fine with Drew Stubbs in CF, he's extremely streaky with the bat but at least he plays excellent defense. I'm beyond sick and tired of watching Orlando Cabrera, Francisco Cordero, and Jonny Gomes.

    Jonny Gomes has had one good month all season and has been awful the majority of the time. To make things worse, his defense is a major liability. That ball hit by Heyward in the 9th inning would have been caught by even an average defender. If Gomes can get within a foot of it then Nix or Heisey definitely catch it.

    Cordero needs to go on the DL or something. At worst, he needs to be demoted from the closers role and no longer allowed to pitch in high leverage situations unless it's an emergency. I liked the deal at the time but it's becoming more and more evident that Cordero is done. He no longer has an out pitch and his control is well below average at this point.

    I'm still trying to figure out why Heisey didn't hit for Bruce in the 8th. I like Jay Bruce a lot but IMO, he didn't stand a chance against a stud like Venters. Heisey (or Hanigan/Cairo) had a better chance at making contact there.

    Tough, tough loss for the Reds. Once again the Reds inability to get a runner in from third base come back to bite them in the butt.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    Trade for Adam Dunn. Stick Heisey in center. Platoon Bruce and Gomes in right.
    Wouldn't be worth bringing him back unless the NL added the DH.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    To add some substance to this rant:

    Career splits:
    Stubbs vL .257/.311/.507/.818
    Stubbs vR .242/.310/.376/687
    Dickerson vL .238/.338/.317/655
    Dickerson vR .281/.373/.441/.814

    Don't give Stubbs a pass because he's young and his defense. Dickerosn may not be Stubbs' level, but he's good out there too.

    Gomes is just bad. Outside of a month, he hasn't hit, and he never can field. Play Heisey.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    Trade for Adam Dunn. Stick Heisey in center. Platoon Bruce and Gomes in right.
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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    Cabrera and his .640 OPS in the two-hole says hi. Votto should sue for non-support.
    That's a problem too. His 1-5 tonight didn't help matters either.

    Dusty is playing a role here giving up cumulative runs in a pennant chase. The guys in front of Votto need to get on base, and if they aren't getting on base, they shouldn't be where they're at. It makes it that much more difficult to score runs when there's a guy in front of the NL MVP who gets on base as little as Taveras and Patterson.
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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    The sky is falling!

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    Wouldn't be worth bringing him back unless the NL added the DH.
    Well Dunn wouldn't be any worse than Gomes currently is out there.

    Bottom line, it's been a fun season. But this team needs help. Actually, it could really help ITSELF by doing a few simple things. Platoon Gomes and Bruce, start Heisey. Demote Cordero. Etc. But none of that will happen.

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    Re: Johnny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Francisco Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    That's a problem too. His 1-5 tonight didn't help matters either.

    Dusty is playing a role here giving up cumulative runs in a pennant chase. The guys in front of Votto need to get on base, and if they aren't getting on base, they shouldn't be where they're at. It makes it that much more difficult to score runs when there's a guy in front of the NL MVP who gets on base as little as Taveras and Patterson.
    Another advantage of calling up Dickerson, he can actually hit in the leadoff spot.

    You'd have Dickerson/Phillips ahead of Votto, instead of Cabrera.


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