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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    I wanted to bring up why its silly to bat your weakest hitters 2nd.

    For example Orlando Cabrera has stepped to the plate 453 times this year. Hes got on base a total of 133 times.

    Jay Bruce has stepped to the plate 427 times but has got on base 138 times.

    Lets say Bruce had as many PA betting 2nd as Cabrera he would have been on base 148 times this year. thats 15 more RBI chances for everyone that hits behind him.

    Votto has knocked in 18% of the baserunners hes had on base. Thats 3 more RBIs for Votto at least from Bruce alone. Not to discount the times the higher OBP guy extends an inning giving Votto even more RBI chances.

    If Cabrera has as many PA as Bruce he would get on base 127 times.

    You basically gain a net of 4 more base runners if it played out exactly the same, which it wouldnt because likely everyone would get more PA since the teams OBP would be higher, so far this year if you hit Bruce 2nd, and Cabrera 6th. Thats comparing a .298 OBP to a .326. That doesnt even consider in slugging percentage which likely means Bruce scores even more often since he would likely hit more doubles, triples and home runs.

    I used bruce and Cabrera just for examples sake to show how much .30 points in OBP means even before slugging is taken into effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sivman17 View Post
    I see nothing wrong with the lineup. OCab is hurt. Votto is hurt. Stubbs isn't playing.

    The order isn't a big deal to me. You need balance up and down the lineup.

    Wouldn't you want your better hitters to see more AB's then your worse hitters?

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    Wouldn't you want your better hitters to see more AB's then your worse hitters?
    Blasphemy!!!!

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I wanted to bring up why its silly to bat your weakest hitters 2nd.

    For example Orlando Cabrera has stepped to the plate 453 times this year. Hes got on base a total of 133 times.

    Jay Bruce has stepped to the plate 427 times but has got on base 138 times.

    Lets say Bruce had as many PA betting 2nd as Cabrera he would have been on base 148 times this year. thats 15 more RBI chances for everyone that hits behind him.

    Votto has knocked in 18% of the baserunners hes had on base. Thats 3 more RBIs for Votto at least from Bruce alone. Not to discount the times the higher OBP guy extends an inning giving Votto even more RBI chances.

    If Cabrera has as many PA as Bruce he would get on base 127 times.

    You basically gain a net of 4 more base runners if it played out exactly the same, which it wouldnt because likely everyone would get more PA since the teams OBP would be higher, so far this year if you hit Bruce 2nd, and Cabrera 6th. Thats comparing a .298 OBP to a .326. That doesnt even consider in slugging percentage which likely means Bruce scores even more often since he would likely hit more doubles, triples and home runs.

    I used bruce and Cabrera just for examples sake to show how much .30 points in OBP means even before slugging is taken into effect.
    Dusty agrees with you. Janish is hitting second today and has a .370 OBP.

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    i hope we take it easy on janish in the game thread tonight. hes in a tough spot only getting a handful of playing time and being thrusted into a every day spot in the middle of a pennat race.

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    Its hard to blame Janish because he can't hit. We can count on one hand the ABs he's had since the AS break.
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    Damnit. Game delayed to rain
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    are you fishing kidding me.. why is this game delayed?? what a bunch of crap.. lets start the dang thing and if it rains lets delay it.. not wait on the rain

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    we'll know after these two weeks if he needs to be our everyday shortstop or cabrera does down the stretch.. no more speculation on what could have been.

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    any word on how long this rain delay is going to last? (just got home)

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    Did it just start raining there? I cut away from Reds Live at about 6:45 and everything was fine then just went back and FSN has air racing!

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    did they say how long there thinking? 20min? 1hr?

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    johnfayman We're in a delay. No rain, just a delay. #reds 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

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    Re: 8-3-10 Reds @ Bucs

    Just checked weather.com and it says it's not even raining there! I'll post the link for "TruPoint" weather for PNC Park.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/today...rk+PA+39075:20


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