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    NL Central: 2000-2010

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    In honor of departed Reds killers, I'd like to offer them a belated swift kick in the pants as they head out of the Central and into I-don't-care-where.

    Bye-bye:

    Lance Berkman
    Roy Oswalt
    Ryan Ludwick
    Ryan Teriot

    Soon to be departed:

    Prince Fielder - go to the AL, it is calling...
    Ricky Weeks
    Jim Edmonds - retire!
    Derek Lee - fading
    Zambrano - fading mentally

    In general, I've always defended the NL Central against pundits who always think the coastal divisions are better, but man the quality really is undeniably down for the near future, as the Reds are emerging, thankfully.

    Just look at the talent that used to rule our division; it's fading, dissipating, vanishing...

    Let's keep this trend going. I like it.
    The NL Central has been a gutter since its creation.

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    I think the Cards, Astros and Cubs have carried it quite well until the last 2 years. 2000-2006 were particularly strong.
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    I think the Cards, Astros and Cubs have carried it quite well until the last 2 years. 2000-2006 were particularly strong.
    The Cubs?

    Other than the Cards, every team has been ultimately a second or third tier franchise.

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    The 2004, 2005 Astros say hello. And the 2003 Cubs just dropped by as well.
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    The 2004, 2005 Astros say hello. And the 2003 Cubs just dropped by as well.
    Yeah, they had blips of decency, but someone has to win the division. And the Astros were a first-round exit punchline for years.

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    2004 and 2005 fixed all that, didn't it?
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    By that definition, only the AL East has been above awful since the third division was added, since it's the only division where multiple teams have been good virtually the whole time.
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    NLCS participants 2000-2009:

    East: 6
    West: 6
    Central: 8
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11 View Post
    By that definition, only the AL East has been above awful since the third division was added, since it's the only division where multiple teams have been good virtually the whole time.
    NL East, NL West have had consistently relevant teams.

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    NLCS participants 2000-2009:

    East: 6
    West: 6
    Central: 8
    Central has had 3 teams represent it in those 10 seasons, and just one of those teams has been there on, what, 5 of those 8 occasions?

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    NL East, NL West have had consistently relevant teams.
    Relevant in wins/serious title contention, or just name value? The Braves sure, but the Phillies, Marlins and Mets trade off as challengers over that time. The Giants are the closest thing out west, but no other team challenges on a consistent basis since 1995.

    In the Central it's been the Cardinals with rotating challengers behind them. Same as the other divisions.
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11 View Post
    Relevant in wins/serious title contention, or just name value? The Braves sure, but the Phillies, Marlins and Mets trade off as challengers over that time. The Giants are the closest thing out west, but no other team challenges on a consistent basis since 1995.

    In the Central it's been the Cardinals with rotating challengers behind them. Same as the other divisions.
    Series wins, season win percentage, postseason victory totals.

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Code:
    NATIONAL LEAGUE
    CAREER
    2000-2009
    
    LOSSES displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    WINNING PERCENTAGE displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    
    WINS                             W        L       PCT    
    1    Cardinals                   913      706     .564   
    2    Braves                      892      726     .551   
    3    Dodgers                     862      758     .532   
    4    Giants                      855      762     .529   
    5    Phillies                    850      769     .525   
    6    Astros                      832      787     .514   
    7    Mets                        815      803     .504   
    8    Marlins                     811      807     .501   
    9    Cubs                        807      811     .499   
    10   Diamondbacks                805      815     .497   
    T11  Padres                      769      852     .474   
    T11  Rockies                     769      852     .474   
    13   Reds                        751      869     .464   
    14   Brewers                     741      878     .458   
    15   Nationals                   711      908     .439   
    16   Pirates                     681      936     .421
    top 50 seasons NL 2000-09

    Code:
    NATIONAL LEAGUE
    SEASON
    2000-2009
    
    LOSSES displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    WINNING PERCENTAGE displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    
    WINS                          YEAR      W        L       PCT    
    1    Cardinals                2004      105       57     .648   
    T2   Braves                   2002      101       59     .631   
    T2   Braves                   2003      101       61     .623   
    T4   Giants                   2003      100       61     .621   
    T4   Cardinals                2005      100       62     .617   
    6    Diamondbacks             2002       98       64     .605   
    T7   Cardinals                2002       97       65     .599   
    T7   Giants                   2000       97       65     .599   
    T7   Cubs                     2008       97       64     .602   
    T7   Mets                     2006       97       65     .599   
    11   Braves                   2004       96       66     .593   
    T12  Cardinals                2000       95       67     .586   
    T12  Braves                   2000       95       67     .586   
    T12  Dodgers                  2009       95       67     .586   
    T12  Giants                   2002       95       66     .590   
    16   Mets                     2000       94       68     .580   
    T17  Cardinals                2001       93       69     .574   
    T17  Phillies                 2009       93       69     .574   
    T17  Astros                   2001       93       69     .574   
    T17  Dodgers                  2004       93       69     .574   
    T21  Rockies                  2009       92       70     .568   
    T21  Diamondbacks             2001       92       70     .568   
    T21  Astros                   2004       92       70     .568   
    T21  Phillies                 2008       92       70     .568   
    T21  Dodgers                  2002       92       70     .568   
    T26  Giants                   2004       91       71     .562   
    T26  Marlins                  2003       91       71     .562   
    T26  Cardinals                2009       91       71     .562   
    T29  Braves                   2005       90       72     .556   
    T29  Diamondbacks             2007       90       72     .556   
    T29  Giants                   2001       90       72     .556   
    T29  Rockies                  2007       90       73     .552   
    T29  Brewers                  2008       90       72     .556   
    T34  Mets                     2008       89       73     .549   
    T34  Astros                   2005       89       73     .549   
    T34  Phillies                 2007       89       73     .549   
    T34  Cubs                     2004       89       73     .549   
    T34  Padres                   2007       89       74     .546   
    T39  Cubs                     2001       88       74     .543   
    T39  Mets                     2007       88       74     .543   
    T39  Cubs                     2003       88       74     .543   
    T39  Phillies                 2005       88       74     .543   
    T39  Dodgers                  2006       88       74     .543   
    T39  Padres                   2006       88       74     .543   
    T39  Braves                   2001       88       74     .543   
    T39  Giants                   2009       88       74     .543   
    T47  Padres                   2004       87       75     .537   
    T47  Marlins                  2009       87       75     .537   
    T47  Astros                   2003       87       75     .537   
    T50  Dodgers                  2000       86       76     .531   
    T50  Phillies                 2001       86       76     .531   
    T50  Phillies                 2003       86       76     .531   
    T50  Phillies                 2004       86       76     .531   
    T50  Dodgers                  2001       86       76     .531   
    T50  Astros                   2008       86       75     .534   
    T50  Braves                   2009       86       76     .531   
    T50  Cardinals                2008       86       76     .531

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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    And that team has been a top 5 in baseball year in and year out. I've said it before, and I may not need to say it again with all these departures, the Central has been underrated in the last decade.
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    Re: The So Long, See Ya Later List

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    And that team has been a top 5 in baseball year in and year out. I've said it before, and I may not need to say it again with all these departures, the Central has been underrated in the last decade.
    Right, but you realize that a division is more than one team, right? As a division it sucks. Trace it back to its inception and it's even worse.


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