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    If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Just curious.

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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    With Alonso coming and Votto a couple years away from $15 Million plus, we may see this play out at some point. I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me and if they wait until the big bucks have arrived, they won't get as much as we think.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Alot.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Let's put it this way. I wouldn't trade him for the Royals or the Pirates.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    I know it would sound homerish but if I were Jocketty I wouldn't trade him period. At least short of another player that I felt was of his ilk at a more premium defensive position. What I mean by ilk though doesn't just mean production wise, he'd have to bring similar measurables & similar intangibles. Think Joe Mauer, Derek Jeter, Albert Pujols, Chase Utley etc. Not those guys but guys along those lines (ok maybe Mauer).
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Let's put it this way. I wouldn't trade him for the Royals or the Pirates.
    How about together? Mcutchen and Greinke?
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson and Logan Morrison.

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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Erik Bedard for Votto and Bailey.



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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    The other team would have to vastly overpay.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    If Joey Votto isn't untouchable at this point, there is no such thing and the word loses weight in the future. If you can't build around a guy like that, there's no sense ever telling your fan base that you're going to build around 'X' player.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruce32 View Post
    If Joey Votto isn't untouchable at this point, there is no such thing and the word loses weight in the future. If you can't build around a guy like that, there's no sense ever telling your fan base that you're going to build around 'X' player.
    No player is untouchable if moving him will improve the club.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    no one would give what I would want in return.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    It would take an Ace Pitcher, A solid Pitcher, a good bat and a minor league bat.
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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    No player is untouchable if moving him will improve the club.
    True. The key is, how do you make the Reds better by trading a legitimate MVP candidate? You've got to get Votto's talent level back in return and then some. IMO, that's going to be difficult.

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    Re: If you're Jocketty, just how much would it take for you to trade Votto?

    Tim Lincecum and even then I probably say no.
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