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    WMR compliments Dicky V???? That's historic. The media must have finally brainwashed him, pretty soon he'll be talking about how great of a coach Krzyzewski is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    WMR compliments Dicky V???? That's historic. The media must have finally brainwashed him, pretty soon he'll be talking about how great of a coach Krzyzewski is.
    He's wearing a Duke jersey as we speak.

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    Photos of MBB team handing out breakfast to BBM campers...

    http://www.ukathletics.com/view.gal?id=77578

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    WMR compliments Dicky V???? That's historic. The media must have finally brainwashed him, pretty soon he'll be talking about how great of a coach Krzyzewski is.
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    He's wearing a Duke jersey as we speak.


    Hey I heard Crean just got a commitment from the top 5th grader in the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    ...The optimal solution to me would be to have an NCAA eligibility clearinghouse with enough manpower to successfully evaluate eligibility before the season and an enforcement squad with enough manpower to enforce anything through the season. If both are large enough to handle all the eligibility questions effectively, than if something is discovered after the fact, Se la vie.

    I think that the NCAA actually plays this game on purpose to a degree.
    When you remember the NCAA isn't just some monolithic institution, but is composed entirely of the schools.
    -Consider the schools who probably don't want the central clearinghouse to be TOO good at catching ineligible athletes, because who knows what they'll find in our closet.
    -Consider the alternative to guys like Erick Bledsoe playing because they're "conditionally eligible" is them not playing at all. Bledsoe still would have gone to the NBA after his one year wait, and would have done nothing for the NCAA.
    -Consider that having coaches(Who are the real stars) that are seen by the media as slimy creates a good vs evil narrative that can be used to increase viewership of any game. If you have coaches deemed on the side of good,(Izzo, Coach K, Williams?) and coaches seen as bad/slimy/evil(Huggins, Calipari, Matta?) than any game between those two takes on a new level of importance.

    So every once in a while, the NCAA "discovers" new evidence, and puts a school on probation or vacates a season(wait it's Memphis who we don't really care about anyway? So much the better! Huzzah!) This hopefully keeps the rest of the schools somewhat honest(not exceedingly stupid) and shows an image of the NCAA trying to protect the "integrity" of college athletics.
    All the NCAA need do is hire 50 more investigators. It would speed up every investigation, keep the programs a bit more honest, and even help the economy.

    But the NCAA is really, really happy with the status quo and the blind eye justice they've been handing out since they were organized.

    If your program isn't obviously and eggregiously cheating in full public view (and you don't bald-faced lie to investigators), you're going to get away with virtually anything you want to do.

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    Yea son!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    So any kid can have someone else take his ACT/SAT for him, then as long as the NCAA doesn't find out before he is cleared he should be eligible???

    I don't think so.
    In that case, the kid would be accountable. How the heck would the school know? Unless you want representatives from the universities to be sitting in the room when everyone takes their test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    All the NCAA need do is hire 50 more investigators. It would speed up every investigation, keep the programs a bit more honest, and even help the economy.

    But the NCAA is really, really happy with the status quo and the blind eye justice they've been handing out since they were organized.

    If your program isn't obviously and eggregiously cheating in full public view (and you don't bald-faced lie to investigators), you're going to get away with virtually anything you want to do.
    The problem is they can't afford to hire more investigators without taking a bigger piece of the NCAA revenue pie, which requires presidents to sign off. Do you think institutions are going to allow more of their money to be withheld to catch cheaters? I doubt it, especially since they know those in glass houses can't throw stones.

    I really think the NCAA does like to turn a blind eye in some cases, as they don't want the level of full-on corruption get exposed. But I also think they'd go after 80% of these cases more vigorously if they had the manpower. And since they're limited to a set percentage of admin costs they can pluck from the NCAA basketball revenue and postseason media rights, their primary sources of income, their hands are tied.
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    Nice article from Mike DeCourcy at The Sporting News about Kanter situation with quotes from Kanter's father...

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...his-son#subnav

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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

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    Nice article from Mike DeCourcy at The Sporting News about Kanter situation with quotes from Kanter's father...

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...his-son#subnav
    Why is it every article that helps Kentucky's case is a "nice" article and everyone that makes them look like they could have broken rules is "trash?"

    It's funny how one's view of journalism changes with the message.
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    Funny article, flies have invaded the KFC Yum! Center (aka Chicken Bucket) ....

    You can write your own jokes.

    http://www.wlky.com/sports/25275787/detail.html

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    Really nice blog/article by Jon Rothstein, writer for MSG.com...

    http://www.msg.com/blogs/jon-rothste...lywood-1.51142

    in part...

    This is what comes with being at the apex of college basketball -- or any vocation, for that matter. No one will talk about the fact that Bledsoe did extra work to get on the court; they'd rather ignore that Oher's story presented a dramatically worse set of circumstances. Instead of thinking about that, they'd rather vilify Bledsoe and Kentucky.

    Oher became eligible to play college football at the University of Mississippi by taking multiple 10-day "online" courses through Brigham Young University. To complete these courses, all Oher had to do was read a few brief works or passages and answer five questions afterwards. Those courses allowed him to replace Ds and Fs on his transcripts with As, raising his GPA from a 0.6 to a 2.65.

    And since Oher was certified as learning-disabled, he was allowed to take the ACT as many times as possible with an aide at his side to help analyze the questions. A higher ACT score meant Oher could become eligible with a lower GPA: The NCAA has a sliding scale when it comes to ACT and grade-point averages.

    The power of envy nearly smeared Bledsoe's name and the Wildcats' program. It almost left him moving backwards at a point in his life when the only thing on his mind should be preparing for his first NBA training camp with the Los Angeles Clippers.

    Heavy is the head that wears the crown -- the higher you go, as Calipari and Riley have, the more bullets you have to dodge. The greater the stage, the bigger the scrutiny. The higher the profile, the more powerful the takedown.

    Many were inspired by Oher's story, while griping at the result of Bledsoe's. But I see Bledsoe as a young man who became a scapegoat because he was associated with college basketball's empire. Anything else wouldn't be considered the truth. But that wouldn't make for good Hollywood, would it?

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    That article makes a good point about the perception associated with each situation, what it doesn't address though is a right or wrong.

    I genuinely curious WMR, do you feel Kentucky is being wrongly portrayed because;
    a) they've done absolutely nothing wrong
    b)they've done wrong only by the NCAA's stupid rules, the NCAA should just leave everyone alone
    c)they've done wrong but no moreso than any other school
    or d)they've done wrong and you're hoping they don't get caught and/or punished?
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    Honest I can't say it any better than Hoosier Red did in his post, he sums it up basically perfectly.


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